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Post by Tenka on Jul 15, 2017 7:51:01 GMT
So my realisations came from someone else did they? My awareness of that and my evaluation of that came from someone else as soon as they became thought based? WTF looney tunes  .. Original thought has got nowt to do perceiving something and believing what your perceiving . Maybe you were the first peep to see america, doesn't mean that you don't believe it when you first see it . Your mixing lots of stuff up when there's no need . There is a thought / perception of something and you either believe what you perceive or you don't . You believe or you don't will be through your belief system that contains your knowing/s understanding/s . You say you can't know this or that, you say you don't have a belief system but you do . You illustrate them quite nicely .  . You're eating someone elses lunch and regurgitating it. Nor can you create an original thought that no one has ever thought before.  WTF you on about and lol about original thought . Your trying to make something outta nothing . Original thought has got nowt to do with what were speaking about . You feel the sun on your face . You refer to the sun as the sun by means of words . By using such words one begins to explain that the sun is hot and can speak of the suns differences compared with the moon for example . By your knowing/s understandings which you deny having in every post you make would suggest that by saying the sun is hot is not true because the words / thoughts used and created by every peep is not original lol . It's pants and holds no weight whatsoever . My realisations I have made sense of I am not rambling at all, I am not distracting myself from the so called fact that you suggest in that I haven't learned anything . If I was to speak about 25 years of meditation I will speak about how it is from my experience . Why would I regurgitate someone else understanding on the subject . |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 15:48:40 GMT
You're just rambling to distract yourself from the fact that you haven't learned anything about Reality on your own. You're eating someone elses lunch and regurgitating it. Nor can you create an original thought that no one has ever thought before. WTF you on about and lol about original thought . Your trying to make something outta nothing . Original thought has got nowt to do with what were speaking about . You feel the sun on your face . You refer to the sun as the sun by means of words . By using such words one begins to explain that the sun is hot and can speak of the suns differences compared with the moon for example . By your knowing/s understandings which you deny having in every post you make would suggest that by saying the sun is hot is not true because the words / thoughts used and created by every peep is not original lol . It's pants and holds no weight whatsoever . My realisations I have made sense of I am not rambling at all, I am not distracting myself from the so called fact that you suggest in that I haven't learned anything . If I was to speak about 25 years of meditation I will speak about how it is from my experience . Why would I regurgitate someone else understanding on the subject .It's not about why would you, it's about why are you...  Why are you pretending to be asleep? |
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Post by Tenka on Jul 15, 2017 18:36:56 GMT
WTF you on about and lol about original thought . Your trying to make something outta nothing . Original thought has got nowt to do with what were speaking about . You feel the sun on your face . You refer to the sun as the sun by means of words . By using such words one begins to explain that the sun is hot and can speak of the suns differences compared with the moon for example . By your knowing/s understandings which you deny having in every post you make would suggest that by saying the sun is hot is not true because the words / thoughts used and created by every peep is not original lol . It's pants and holds no weight whatsoever . My realisations I have made sense of I am not rambling at all, I am not distracting myself from the so called fact that you suggest in that I haven't learned anything . If I was to speak about 25 years of meditation I will speak about how it is from my experience . Why would I regurgitate someone else understanding on the subject .It's not about why would you, it's about why are you... Why are you pretending to be asleep? Just because peeps share the same language expressed through words doesn't mean we all think the same and copy each others experiences . I don't think there is many that actually get what I am saying . I don't buy into mainstream spiritual philosophies . That's probably why I spend most of my time disagreeing with peeps . I am no follower of fashion .. If I agree with a few peeps that's all that is happening . I am agreeing with them, that's all it is . Again, your not addressing any of my comments and your not addressing any of your flaws / contradictions . You don't get any prizes for ignoring them, what happens is you just deny them for another day . |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 19:54:50 GMT
It's not about why would you, it's about why are you... Why are you pretending to be asleep? Just because peeps share the same language expressed through words doesn't mean we all think the same and copy each others experiences . I don't think there is many that actually get what I am saying . I don't buy into mainstream spiritual philosophies . That's probably why I spend most of my time disagreeing with peeps . I am no follower of fashion .. If I agree with a few peeps that's all that is happening . I am agreeing with them, that's all it is . Again, your not addressing any of my comments and your not addressing any of your flaws / contradictions . You don't get any prizes for ignoring them, what happens is you just deny them for another day . If you are not regurgitating what you have intellectually accumulated then simply state a thought that is uniquely your own that no one has ever thought. And that doesn't include a lame attempt to rearrange someone else's words that you've learned like Enigma did. |
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Post by Tenka on Jul 16, 2017 9:43:45 GMT
Just because peeps share the same language expressed through words doesn't mean we all think the same and copy each others experiences . I don't think there is many that actually get what I am saying . I don't buy into mainstream spiritual philosophies . That's probably why I spend most of my time disagreeing with peeps . I am no follower of fashion .. If I agree with a few peeps that's all that is happening . I am agreeing with them, that's all it is . Again, your not addressing any of my comments and your not addressing any of your flaws / contradictions . You don't get any prizes for ignoring them, what happens is you just deny them for another day . If you are not regurgitating what you have intellectually accumulated then simply state a thought that is uniquely your own that no one has ever thought. And that doesn't include a lame attempt to rearrange someone else's words that you've learned like Enigma did. What has unique thought got to do with believing one's perception or attaining a belief system based upon that perception . You say it doesn't happen in your experience and yet you hold a belief about the relevance of unique thought v regurgitated thought . We use a common way of identifying what we experience and we have a common way of conveying what is experienced . Like said, it doesn't matter if you call the sun the sun or a banana, it doesn't matter if a million people agree that within their experience of it they all conclude that it's hot . Peeps can say hot, hot, hot, a billion times, it won't water down the experience or the belief that it is hot . For some reason you seem to think that if a peep comes out with an original thought about the sun, it supersedes every other shared thought . Self realised peeps relate to the love of what you are . There is no peep that has realised what they are that will disagree with that . Because they are in agreement and share the same understandings, does that mean that what they understand through realisation holds no weight compared to an original thought about it . I could go on and on giving examples of peeps sucking on a lemon, My god that tastes so bitter, butt it holds no weight cos you said it's bitter too!! doh!! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 16:00:31 GMT
If you are not regurgitating what you have intellectually accumulated then simply state a thought that is uniquely your own that no one has ever thought. And that doesn't include a lame attempt to rearrange someone else's words that you've learned like Enigma did. You say it doesn't happen in your experience and yet you hold a belief about the relevance of unique thought v regurgitated thought . We use a common way of identifying what we experience and we have a common way of conveying what is experienced . Like said, it doesn't matter if you call the sun the sun or a banana, it doesn't matter if a million people agree that within their experience of it they all conclude that it's hot . Peeps can say hot, hot, hot, a billion times, it won't water down the experience or the belief that it is hot . For some reason you seem to think that if a peep comes out with an original thought about the sun, it supersedes every other shared thought . Self realised peeps relate to the love of what you are . There is no peep that has realised what they are that will disagree with that . Because they are in agreement and share the same understandings, does that mean that what they understand through realisation holds no weight compared to an original thought about it . I could go on and on giving examples of peeps sucking on a lemon, My god that tastes so bitter, butt it holds no weight cos you said it's bitter too!! doh!! It has everything to do with it. Your beliefs and perceptions are not yours. Nothing you have accumulated belongs to you. That doesn't mean the intelligence can't function in the world, it means most of the petty life that you take to be 'you' is an illusion. |
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Post by Tenka on Jul 16, 2017 18:41:36 GMT
What has unique thought got to do with believing one's perception or attaining a belief system based upon that perception .You say it doesn't happen in your experience and yet you hold a belief about the relevance of unique thought v regurgitated thought . We use a common way of identifying what we experience and we have a common way of conveying what is experienced . Like said, it doesn't matter if you call the sun the sun or a banana, it doesn't matter if a million people agree that within their experience of it they all conclude that it's hot . Peeps can say hot, hot, hot, a billion times, it won't water down the experience or the belief that it is hot . For some reason you seem to think that if a peep comes out with an original thought about the sun, it supersedes every other shared thought . Self realised peeps relate to the love of what you are . There is no peep that has realised what they are that will disagree with that . Because they are in agreement and share the same understandings, does that mean that what they understand through realisation holds no weight compared to an original thought about it . I could go on and on giving examples of peeps sucking on a lemon, My god that tastes so bitter, butt it holds no weight cos you said it's bitter too!! doh!! It has everything to do with it. Your beliefs and perceptions are not yours. Nothing you have accumulated belongs to you. That doesn't mean the intelligence can't function in the world, it means most of the petty life that you take to be 'you' is an illusion. Whether or not original thought or shared though arises .. has got nowt to to with who owns the thought . You keep drifting and changing the dynamics of the conversation without ever addressing the key points . What you just said in reply to my post doesn't relate to my post at all . Why don't you just relate to what I keep saying rather than not? I spoke about original thought and shared thought through same understanding/s . Can you reply to that? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 0:27:02 GMT
It has everything to do with it. Your beliefs and perceptions are not yours. Nothing you have accumulated belongs to you. That doesn't mean the intelligence can't function in the world, it means most of the petty life that you take to be 'you' is an illusion. Whether or not original thought or shared though arises .. has got nowt to to with who owns the thought . You keep drifting and changing the dynamics of the conversation without ever addressing the key points . What you just said in reply to my post doesn't relate to my post at all . Why don't you just relate to what I keep saying rather than not? I spoke about original thought and shared thought through same understanding/s . Can you reply to that? Because what you are relating to is all in your head and not Reality. I can appreciate your made up world, I just don’t have any interest in it. |
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Post by Tenka on Jul 17, 2017 8:17:42 GMT
Whether or not original thought or shared though arises .. has got nowt to to with who owns the thought . You keep drifting and changing the dynamics of the conversation without ever addressing the key points . What you just said in reply to my post doesn't relate to my post at all . Why don't you just relate to what I keep saying rather than not? I spoke about original thought and shared thought through same understanding/s . Can you reply to that? Because what you are relating to is all in your head and not Reality. I can appreciate your made up world, I just don’t have any interest in it. Again, you can't know that can you . How many times do I have to say it? How many times are you going to ignore your own philosophy . Your philosophy that is in your head . shakes head at the continual contradictions / denials .. Are you able to understand the complications of your very words? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 0:19:08 GMT
Because what you are relating to is all in your head and not Reality. I can appreciate your made up world, I just don’t have any interest in it. Again, you can't know that can you . How many times do I have to say it? How many times are you going to ignore your own philosophy . Your philosophy that is in your head . shakes head at the continual contradictions / denials .. Are you able to understand the complications of your very words? You are very good at seeing what 'others' can't know. Now turn that seeing around. |
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