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Post by Figgles on Apr 26, 2017 0:01:52 GMT
The entire 'world' can be in chaos, swirling around you, and you could still be fundamentally, at peace. The surface chaos has no power to touch the peace that lies inherent to being itself.. abidance in 'I am,' will take you immediately to that place where this peace resides. The 'abiding' bit, is really just a matter of "establishment" or perhaps better said, 'groundedness' in being.
Peace is founded upon an absence, but Peace is known through experience. A moment of contentment, is the peace of being, momentarily shining through. The peace is always there, regardless, even amidst identification with the finite. In that case, peace is simply temporarily obscured.
Peace is known by way of experience.....it may not itself, specifically BE an experience, per se, but absent all experience, we would not even be talking about 'Peace.'
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 18:46:25 GMT
The entire 'world' can be in chaos, swirling around you, and you could still be fundamentally, at peace. The surface chaos has no power to touch the peace that lies inherent to being itself.. abidance in 'I am,' will take you immediately to that place where this peace resides. The 'abiding' bit, is really just a matter of "establishment" or perhaps better said, 'groundedness' in being. Peace is founded upon an absence, but Peace is known through experience. A moment of contentment, is the peace of being, momentarily shining through. The peace is always there, regardless, even amidst identification with the finite. In that case, peace is simply temporarily obscured. Peace is known by way of experience.....it may not itself, specifically BE an experience, per se, but absent all experience, we would not even be talking about 'Peace.' In my view peace is in the way universe unfolds, if it unfolds in such a way that that would piss you off then you are not in peace, but I believe Experience must be the result of knowing. |
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Post by Figgles on Apr 28, 2017 21:33:14 GMT
The entire 'world' can be in chaos, swirling around you, and you could still be fundamentally, at peace. The surface chaos has no power to touch the peace that lies inherent to being itself.. abidance in 'I am,' will take you immediately to that place where this peace resides. The 'abiding' bit, is really just a matter of "establishment" or perhaps better said, 'groundedness' in being. Peace is founded upon an absence, but Peace is known through experience. A moment of contentment, is the peace of being, momentarily shining through. The peace is always there, regardless, even amidst identification with the finite. In that case, peace is simply temporarily obscured. Peace is known by way of experience.....it may not itself, specifically BE an experience, per se, but absent all experience, we would not even be talking about 'Peace.' In my view peace is in the way universe unfolds, if it unfolds in such a way that that would piss you off then you are not in peace, but I believe Experience must be the result of knowing. Do you have any reference for a surfacey kind of 'pissed off,' where you are mildly irritated with someone (hehe....our dear 'ol friend whose name starts with an R comes to mind here..  ), but it is only on the surface and it does not really make you feel sad or bad beyond just a fleeting sort of eye roll, but underneath it all, you are very much still at peace?...where you might think 'uggghh, that Guy,' but then in the next moment, you can laugh at your own irritation and see the humor in it, and quickly even move onto another subject that makes you really happy? As I see it, there is a point where that foundational 'peace of Being' is always there, underscoring any feeling that is arising on the surface of things. So, what that means in terms of experience, is that feelings still dip down and fluctuate and move, but it's rare for any circumstantial happening to have enough importance to you, that your feelings would dip below a very surfacey sort of irritation. If emotional upset happens, the peace is standing by, ready to rush in and quickly mitigate it. Therefore, regardless of what happens, car stolen, friend treats you poorly, loved one dies, that peace of being abides through it, and while surface feelings might briefly reflect dislike of what has happened, you're just not going to get 'too' bent out of shape emotionally. When peace abides like this, regardless of what unfolds in experience, you're ok. just want to add: When peace abides like that, what unfolds is mostly in accordance with what is liked/wanted. That said, 'unliked/unwanted' happenings are not out of the question......contrast is still in play, after all. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 16:46:05 GMT
In my view peace is in the way universe unfolds, if it unfolds in such a way that that would piss you off then you are not in peace, but I believe Experience must be the result of knowing. Do you have any reference for a surfacey kind of 'pissed off,' where you are mildly irritated with someone (hehe....our dear 'ol friend whose name starts with an R comes to mind here.. ), but it is only on the surface and it does not really make you feel sad or bad beyond just a fleeting sort of eye roll, but underneath it all, you are very much still at peace?...where you might think 'uggghh, that Guy,' but then in the next moment, you can laugh at your own irritation and see the humor in it, and quickly even move onto another subject that makes you really happy? As I see it, there is a point where that foundational 'peace of Being' is always there, underscoring any feeling that is arising on the surface of things. So, what that means in terms of experience, is that feelings still dip down and fluctuate and move, but it's rare for any circumstantial happening to have enough importance to you, that your feelings would dip below a very surfacey sort of irritation. If emotional upset happens, the peace is standing by, ready to rush in and quickly mitigate it. Therefore, regardless of what happens, car stolen, friend treats you poorly, loved one dies, that peace of being abides through it, and while surface feelings might briefly reflect dislike of what has happened, you're just not going to get 'too' bent out of shape emotionally. When peace abides like this, regardless of what unfolds in experience, you're ok. just want to add: When peace abides like that, what unfolds is mostly in accordance with what is liked/wanted. That said, 'unliked/unwanted' happenings are not out of the question......contrast is still in play, after all. Yes, peace is the screen on which the activity of peace is playing itself out on. Sent from my SM-G903W using Tapatalk |
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Post by Figgles on Apr 29, 2017 20:58:53 GMT
Do you have any reference for a surfacey kind of 'pissed off,' where you are mildly irritated with someone (hehe....our dear 'ol friend whose name starts with an R comes to mind here.. ), but it is only on the surface and it does not really make you feel sad or bad beyond just a fleeting sort of eye roll, but underneath it all, you are very much still at peace?...where you might think 'uggghh, that Guy,' but then in the next moment, you can laugh at your own irritation and see the humor in it, and quickly even move onto another subject that makes you really happy? As I see it, there is a point where that foundational 'peace of Being' is always there, underscoring any feeling that is arising on the surface of things. So, what that means in terms of experience, is that feelings still dip down and fluctuate and move, but it's rare for any circumstantial happening to have enough importance to you, that your feelings would dip below a very surfacey sort of irritation. If emotional upset happens, the peace is standing by, ready to rush in and quickly mitigate it. Therefore, regardless of what happens, car stolen, friend treats you poorly, loved one dies, that peace of being abides through it, and while surface feelings might briefly reflect dislike of what has happened, you're just not going to get 'too' bent out of shape emotionally. When peace abides like this, regardless of what unfolds in experience, you're ok. just want to add: When peace abides like that, what unfolds is mostly in accordance with what is liked/wanted. That said, 'unliked/unwanted' happenings are not out of the question......contrast is still in play, after all. Yes, peace is the screen on which the activity of peace is playing itself out on. Sent from my SM-G903W using Tapatalk Hmmm...that's a cool way to put it.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2017 14:17:05 GMT
In my view peace is in the way universe unfolds, if it unfolds in such a way that that would piss you off then you are not in peace, but I believe Experience must be the result of knowing.
As I see it, there is a point where that foundational 'peace of Being' is always there, underscoring any feeling that is arising on the surface of things. So, what that means in terms of experience, is that feelings still dip down and fluctuate and move, but it's rare for any circumstantial happening to have enough importance to you, that your feelings would dip below a very surfacey sort of irritation. If emotional upset happens, the peace is standing by, ready to rush in and quickly mitigate it.
Therefore, regardless of what happens, car stolen, friend treats you poorly, loved one dies, that peace of being abides through it, and while surface feelings might briefly reflect dislike of what has happened, you're just not going to get 'too' bent out of shape emotionally.
When peace abides like this, regardless of what unfolds in experience, you're ok. just want to add: When peace abides like that, what unfolds is mostly in accordance with what is liked/wanted. That said, 'unliked/unwanted' happenings are not out of the question......contrast is still in play, after all. I am not saying that I don't experience irritation, I am obviously experiencing rollercoaster, other side of the rollercoaster always put me into the problem, my statement is, "Alfio goes Reefs comes" , people is replaced, but my inner experience remains the same. But what you are saying through your thrid paragraph, you separating the inner from outer, not only you, but Satch as well. The same kind of mistake you, Satch, someNOTHING makes ! Are you only witness in your dream? Aren't you also creating your dream? That's ok, but you are not only witness of your dream, you are the creator of your dream as well. Aren't you? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2017 14:32:46 GMT
Do you have any reference for a surfacey kind of 'pissed off,' where you are mildly irritated with someone (hehe....our dear 'ol friend whose name starts with an R comes to mind here.. ), but it is only on the surface and it does not really make you feel sad or bad beyond just a fleeting sort of eye roll, but underneath it all, you are very much still at peace?...where you might think 'uggghh, that Guy,' but then in the next moment, you can laugh at your own irritation and see the humor in it, and quickly even move onto another subject that makes you really happy?
As I see it, there is a point where that foundational 'peace of Being' is always there, underscoring any feeling that is arising on the surface of things. So, what that means in terms of experience, is that feelings still dip down and fluctuate and move, but it's rare for any circumstantial happening to have enough importance to you, that your feelings would dip below a very surfacey sort of irritation. If emotional upset happens, the peace is standing by, ready to rush in and quickly mitigate it.
Therefore, regardless of what happens, car stolen, friend treats you poorly, loved one dies, that peace of being abides through it, and while surface feelings might briefly reflect dislike of what has happened, you're just not going to get 'too' bent out of shape emotionally.
When peace abides like this, regardless of what unfolds in experience, you're ok. just want to add: When peace abides like that, what unfolds is mostly in accordance with what is liked/wanted. That said, 'unliked/unwanted' happenings are not out of the question......contrast is still in play, after all. I am not saying that I don't experience irritation, I am obviously experiencing rollercoaster, other side of the rollercoaster always put me into the problem, my statement is, "Alfio goes Reefs comes" , people is replaced, but my inner experience remains the same. But what you are saying through your thrid paragraph, you separating the inner from outer, not only you, but Satch as well. The same kind of mistake you, Satch, someNOTHING makes ! Are you only witness in your dream? Aren't you also creating your dream? That's ok, but you are not only witness of your dream, you are the creator of your dream as well. Aren't you? Creator? As in the brain takes in sensory data from Reality and creates a mental construction of the world. A virtual Reality? Sent from my SM-G903W using Tapatalk |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2017 14:35:21 GMT
I am not saying that I don't experience irritation, I am obviously experiencing rollercoaster, other side of the rollercoaster always put me into the problem, my statement is, "Alfio goes Reefs comes" , people is replaced, but my inner experience remains the same. But what you are saying through your thrid paragraph, you separating the inner from outer, not only you, but Satch as well. The same kind of mistake you, Satch, someNOTHING makes ! Are you only witness in your dream? Aren't you also creating your dream? That's ok, but you are not only witness of your dream, you are the creator of your dream as well. Aren't you? Creator? As in the brain takes in sensory data from Reality and creates a mental construction of the world. A virtual Reality? Sent from my SM-G903W using Tapatalk Only Awareness exist, everything is appearing in awareness, all physical things are appearing, your own body is appearing to you. Just compare the your nightly dream where your own body appear too, notice that? So Brain doesn't exist to receive data from outer world, awareness is perceiving the appearance. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2017 14:53:22 GMT
Creator? As in the brain takes in sensory data from Reality and creates a mental construction of the world. A virtual Reality? Sent from my SM-G903W using Tapatalk Only Awareness exist, everything is appearing in awareness, all physical things are appearing, your own body is appearing to you. Just compare the your nightly dream where your own body appear too, notice that? So Brain doesn't exist to receive data from outer world, awareness is perceiving the appearance. So if you were born without a brain or it was damaged you are still aware? Sent from my SM-G903W using Tapatalk |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2017 14:54:40 GMT
Only Awareness exist, everything is appearing in awareness, all physical things are appearing, your own body is appearing to you. Just compare the your nightly dream where your own body appear too, notice that? So Brain doesn't exist to receive data from outer world, awareness is perceiving the appearance. So if you were born without a brain or it was damaged you are still aware? Sent from my SM-G903W using Tapatalk You are not understanding the basic here. You appear in your dream, you are seeing your body in your dream, Now tell me whether that body has the brain? |
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), but it is only on the surface and it does not really make you feel sad or bad beyond just a fleeting sort of eye roll, but underneath it all, you are very much still at peace?...where you might think 'uggghh, that Guy,' but then in the next moment, you can laugh at your own irritation and see the humor in it, and quickly even move onto another subject that makes you really happy? 