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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 17:00:50 GMT
Have you considered that this conversation is only appearing in my experience. Including the thought that you exist outside of it? Is it the same experience for you? Why would I entertain your idea when you don't believe you could know that it is even a possibility . Do you understand the nature of our conversations in relation to your understandings and beliefs that you don't have / can't have . You haven't acknowledged the problem / contradiction that your non understandings create in regards to conversation . Are you deliberately avoiding acknowledging this crucial fact . It seems that you are, for every time I mention it you don't address it . This is at the heart of your understandings and beliefs regarding what is happening or what is potentially happening . A lot of confusion is arising in me in the form of words appearing on my screen, with the name tenka attached to it.
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Post by Tenka on Jul 12, 2017 7:53:56 GMT
Why would I entertain your idea when you don't believe you could know that it is even a possibility . Do you understand the nature of our conversations in relation to your understandings and beliefs that you don't have / can't have . You haven't acknowledged the problem / contradiction that your non understandings create in regards to conversation . Are you deliberately avoiding acknowledging this crucial fact . It seems that you are, for every time I mention it you don't address it . This is at the heart of your understandings and beliefs regarding what is happening or what is potentially happening . A lot of confusion is arising in me in the form of words appearing on my screen, with the name tenka attached to it. The confusion is all yours based upon your philosophies that don't add up . I am pointing out this fact . If someone else on the forums asked the same questions as I, you would say that they were at the heart of your confusion . Confusion only arises when you have no foundation . I have no confusion arise when anyone's words appear on my screen unless I don't understand the question or what they are saying . My questions to you are straightforward . So how are you confused?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2017 17:35:35 GMT
A lot of confusion is arising in me in the form of words appearing on my screen, with the name tenka attached to it. The confusion is all yours based upon your philosophies that don't add up . I am pointing out this fact . If someone else on the forums asked the same questions as I, you would say that they were at the heart of your confusion . Confusion only arises when you have no foundation . I have no confusion arise when anyone's words appear on my screen unless I don't understand the question or what they are saying . My questions to you are straightforward . So how are you confused? Confusion is a good thing. That way you're not deluding yourself that you know something. It is the catalyst to 'look' when you realize you don't know.
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Post by Tenka on Jul 13, 2017 7:04:15 GMT
The confusion is all yours based upon your philosophies that don't add up . I am pointing out this fact . If someone else on the forums asked the same questions as I, you would say that they were at the heart of your confusion . Confusion only arises when you have no foundation . I have no confusion arise when anyone's words appear on my screen unless I don't understand the question or what they are saying . My questions to you are straightforward . So how are you confused?Confusion is a good thing. That way you're not deluding yourself that you know something. It is the catalyst to 'look' when you realize you don't know. So how / why are you confused? What's confusing about my questions in relation to your beliefs? When I ask you for example how can you know this or that when your actual belief is that you can't know anything, so why does it lead to replies that don't answer my questions . You have just said above about being deluded when knowing something .. well to know that one is deluded for knowing something is a knowing in relation to that . You see round and round we go until you take stock of your contradictions and your denials . In a way your always doing what you say is impossible to do .. makes no sense .. Lead by example .. Do as I do not do as I say .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2017 14:45:57 GMT
Confusion is a good thing. That way you're not deluding yourself that you know something. It is the catalyst to 'look' when you realize you don't know. So how / why are you confused? What's confusing about my questions in relation to your beliefs? When I ask you for example how can you know this or that when your actual belief is that you can't know anything, so why does it lead to replies that don't answer my questions . You have just said above about being deluded when knowing something .. well to know that one is deluded for knowing something is a knowing in relation to that . You see round and round we go until you take stock of your contradictions and your denials . In a way your always doing what you say is impossible to do .. makes no sense .. Lead by example .. Do as I do not do as I say . Repeating a word that was learned isn't knowing. It's reguritating somone elses thought. But you don't know what a thought is made of, yes or no?
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Post by Tenka on Jul 14, 2017 7:17:44 GMT
So how / why are you confused? What's confusing about my questions in relation to your beliefs? When I ask you for example how can you know this or that when your actual belief is that you can't know anything, so why does it lead to replies that don't answer my questions . You have just said above about being deluded when knowing something .. well to know that one is deluded for knowing something is a knowing in relation to that . You see round and round we go until you take stock of your contradictions and your denials . In a way your always doing what you say is impossible to do .. makes no sense .. Lead by example .. Do as I do not do as I say . Repeating a word that was learned isn't knowing. It's reguritating somone elses thought. But you don't know what a thought is made of, yes or no? You repeating many times that I cannot know anything is you repeating what you know through the expression of the written word . Why would you arrange certain words into sentences to give your opinion on spiritual matters if you didn't know what certain words mean't / referred too? It's not just a point of repeating random words is it, to suggest the knowing of what the heat of the sun feels like, one writes, the sun is as hot as hell . You do know what that means / refers too? Of course you do ... And also your suggestion about knowing and not knowing, again, is just part of your belief system that you deny having . All mixed up again innit!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 18:25:27 GMT
Repeating a word that was learned isn't knowing. It's reguritating somone elses thought. But you don't know what a thought is made of, yes or no? You repeating many times that I cannot know anything is you repeating what you know through the expression of the written word .Why would you arrange certain words into sentences to give your opinion on spiritual matters if you didn't know what certain words mean't / referred too? It's not just a point of repeating random words is it, to suggest the knowing of what the heat of the sun feels like, one writes, the sun is as hot as hell . You do know what that means / refers too? Of course you do ... And also your suggestion about knowing and not knowing, again, is just part of your belief system that you deny having . All mixed up again innit!! No it's not, like I said everything you think you know came from someone else. You have never had an original thought in which you knew something without a shadow of doubt. If you don't think so, try to think of an original thought, that no one has ever thought before.
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Post by Tenka on Jul 14, 2017 19:23:20 GMT
You repeating many times that I cannot know anything is you repeating what you know through the expression of the written word .Why would you arrange certain words into sentences to give your opinion on spiritual matters if you didn't know what certain words mean't / referred too? It's not just a point of repeating random words is it, to suggest the knowing of what the heat of the sun feels like, one writes, the sun is as hot as hell . You do know what that means / refers too? Of course you do ... And also your suggestion about knowing and not knowing, again, is just part of your belief system that you deny having . All mixed up again innit!! No it's not, like I said everything you think you know came from someone else. You have never had an original thought in which you knew something without a shadow of doubt. If you don't think so, try to think of an original thought, that no one has ever thought before. So my realisations came from someone else did they? My awareness of that and my evaluation of that came from someone else as soon as they became thought based? WTF looney tunes .. Original thought has got nowt to do perceiving something and believing what your perceiving . Maybe you were the first peep to see america, doesn't mean that you don't believe it when you first see it . Your mixing lots of stuff up when there's no need . There is a thought / perception of something and you either believe what you perceive or you don't . You believe or you don't will be through your belief system that contains your knowing/s understanding/s . You say you can't know this or that, you say you don't have a belief system but you do . You illustrate them quite nicely .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 22:22:39 GMT
No it's not, like I said everything you think you know came from someone else. You have never had an original thought in which you knew something without a shadow of doubt. If you don't think so, try to think of an original thought, that no one has ever thought before. So my realisations came from someone else did they? My awareness of that and my evaluation of that came from someone else as soon as they became thought based? WTF looney tunes .. Original thought has got nowt to do perceiving something and believing what your perceiving . Maybe you were the first peep to see america, doesn't mean that you don't believe it when you first see it . Your mixing lots of stuff up when there's no need . There is a thought / perception of something and you either believe what you perceive or you don't . You believe or you don't will be through your belief system that contains your knowing/s understanding/s . You say you can't know this or that, you say you don't have a belief system but you do . You illustrate them quite nicely . You're just rambling to distract yourself from the fact that you haven't learned anything about Reality on your own. You're eating someone elses lunch and regurgitating it. Nor can you create an original thought that no one has ever thought before.
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Post by Enigma on Jul 15, 2017 0:51:57 GMT
You repeating many times that I cannot know anything is you repeating what you know through the expression of the written word .Why would you arrange certain words into sentences to give your opinion on spiritual matters if you didn't know what certain words mean't / referred too? It's not just a point of repeating random words is it, to suggest the knowing of what the heat of the sun feels like, one writes, the sun is as hot as hell . You do know what that means / refers too? Of course you do ... And also your suggestion about knowing and not knowing, again, is just part of your belief system that you deny having . All mixed up again innit!! No it's not, like I said everything you think you know came from someone else. You have never had an original thought in which you knew something without a shadow of doubt. If you don't think so, try to think of an original thought, that no one has ever thought before. You're a hydrangea rabbit. **Checking Google to see if it's ever been thought of in any universe.........Nope, never.**
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