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Post by Figgles on Mar 29, 2018 15:38:50 GMT
When it said that Tolle and Manson are equal, it is NOT 'quality' that is being looked at...rather, it is something far more fundamental. Nicely said.  |
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Post by Figgles on Mar 31, 2018 0:59:12 GMT
Oh Zd....so very well said. I thought the same...and actually had just that experience....well, not the mailman per se, but similar circumstance.. literally walking in on a husband and friend....surprise, surprise!  And yes......An incredible, stupendous, absolutely "perfect" opportunity to discover exactly 'how deep the deep goes'.  Might sound crazy...but wow...what a gift. |
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Post by Enigma on Mar 31, 2018 3:23:37 GMT
Oh Zd....so very well said. I thought the same...and actually had just that experience....well, not the mailman per se, but similar circumstance.. literally walking in on a husband and friend....surprise, surprise! And yes......An incredible, stupendous, absolutely "perfect" opportunity to discover exactly 'how deep the deep goes'. Might sound crazy...but wow...what a gift. That's worse than the milkman!  |
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Post by Figgles on Mar 31, 2018 4:27:55 GMT
Oh Zd....so very well said. I thought the same...and actually had just that experience....well, not the mailman per se, but similar circumstance.. literally walking in on a husband and friend....surprise, surprise! And yes......An incredible, stupendous, absolutely "perfect" opportunity to discover exactly 'how deep the deep goes'. Might sound crazy...but wow...what a gift. That's worse than the milkman! Waaaaay worse!   |
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Post by Figgles on Apr 2, 2018 0:02:47 GMT
Abe Hicks: Am I doing good helping the poor?
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Post by Figgles on Apr 2, 2018 18:25:46 GMT
"What business have you with saving the world, when all the world needs is to be saved from you? Get out of the picture and see whether there is anything left to save."
Nisargadatta
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Post by Figgles on Apr 5, 2018 23:17:47 GMT
For Andrew:
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Post by Figgles on May 15, 2018 4:27:33 GMT
Although this topic has been explored (some might say, 'ad-naseum' ) in another thread as Andrew and I argued, I think it's an important talk point. After all, one who cannot see through/past 'a broken world that requires fixing', is clearly, not seeing through/past, thought itself. I like what Reefs had to say here...I too have always resonated with what AH has to say about the misguided idea of 'a broken world.' : Most folks I've met who have a very set idea of how the world 'should be,' are failing bitterly to meet that challenge that Reefs speaks of: "can we allow others to have their own experience based upon their own choices." This is why I told Andrew that his version of utopia sounded to me like a special version of hell. He thinks he knows what is good for everyone, or what other's 'should' be wanting....and if he had his way, he would impose his desires and wants upon a collective world, disregarding the views of others....due to the fact that he thinks his values hold greater weight than those of others. To see that there is no world 'out there,' but rather, the world is in you, is to put an end to all that kind of thinking....in that case, live and let live really does become the main theme/way one lives their life and interacts with others who appear. And yet we all sit through a world full of apparatuses and conventions and installations that make our life different than that of our predecessors, because of 'crazy' people that thought that something had to give. The world may or may not need fixing but the technology required to wander about in this forum is made possible by the people who thought it does.If the focus was predominantly upon the problem or the wrongness of how things are, the vision for what was wanted, would not have been successful. The creation of computers and such may have initially been launched by the perception of problems/issues that folks were interested in solving or improving, but at some point, excitement and eagerness for the new creation took over. Sitting around pointing fingers complaining about how bad the current system is, how messed up public schools are, how greedy those who partake in a capitalistic society are, is not itself going to change anything. |
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Post by Enigma on May 16, 2018 6:46:44 GMT
Although this topic has been explored (some might say, 'ad-naseum' ) in another thread as Andrew and I argued, I think it's an important talk point. After all, one who cannot see through/past 'a broken world that requires fixing', is clearly, not seeing through/past, thought itself. I like what Reefs had to say here...I too have always resonated with what AH has to say about the misguided idea of 'a broken world.' : Most folks I've met who have a very set idea of how the world 'should be,' are failing bitterly to meet that challenge that Reefs speaks of: "can we allow others to have their own experience based upon their own choices." This is why I told Andrew that his version of utopia sounded to me like a special version of hell. He thinks he knows what is good for everyone, or what other's 'should' be wanting....and if he had his way, he would impose his desires and wants upon a collective world, disregarding the views of others....due to the fact that he thinks his values hold greater weight than those of others. To see that there is no world 'out there,' but rather, the world is in you, is to put an end to all that kind of thinking....in that case, live and let live really does become the main theme/way one lives their life and interacts with others who appear. And yet we all sit through a world full of apparatuses and conventions and installations that make our life different than that of our predecessors, because of 'crazy' people that thought that something had to give. The world may or may not need fixing but the technology required to wander about in this forum is made possible by the people who thought it does. In some ways the new technology is a wonderful thing. In some ways it's just a new way to express our ignorance. A community cannot be better than what the residents bring with them, and no technology can change that. The focus on spiritual truth and ending human suffering is perhaps mankind's most noble endeavor, and yet look at what we bring to the table. We are children playing with the tools of creative genius and trying not to hurt anybody. That's the best we can do. How much the world around us changes doesn't matter. Mankind will suffer until mankind changes. That's what Niz was trying to tell us. |
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Post by Figgles on May 26, 2018 14:15:59 GMT
“We can never obtain peace in the outer world until we make peace with ourselves.”
― Dalai Lama
“Each one has to find his peace from within. And peace to be real must be unaffected by outside circumstances.”
― Mahatma Gandhi
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