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Post by Figgles on Aug 18, 2021 20:51:42 GMT
Experience is comprised of circumstance that at times conforms with personal likes and at other times, doesn't comform to personal likes....feelings move up and down the emotional scale, accordingly... none of that a problem so long as it's all seen to be empty appearance only, appearing within/to that which abides, no imagined SVP 'who/that' is liking or not liking, or who is giving rise to the feelings. All ups and downs....all drama, just a play...a dream...a story...a movie..appearing to no one. Experiencing is not moving separately, you are creating your own experience. I know this is new idea for you. But I would like to tell that I have already gotten bored of repeating this idea. So don't want to go further. Of course experience is not moving separately. In asserting that there is a 'you' that creates his 'own' experience, you are actually asserting separation! It's most definitely not a new idea at all. At one point I was very into the idea that I was a personal creator of 'my' reality....and what's even more, I was damned good at it! I had myself pegged as a master creator of pretty much anything I desired.  I still maintain, there is nothing in life I've strongly, clearly, 'wanted/intended' that I haven't received. That doesn't mean though that I as a person am doing something "TO" create/manifest "MY" desires. That's just an 'in the dream' of the unfolding story and the inherent, appearing patterns within that story. |
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Post by Gopal on Aug 19, 2021 6:59:56 GMT
Experiencing is not moving separately, you are creating your own experience. I know this is new idea for you. But I would like to tell that I have already gotten bored of repeating this idea. So don't want to go further. Of course experience is not moving separately. In asserting that there is a 'you' that creates his 'own' experience, you are actually asserting separation! It's most definitely not a new idea at all. At one point I was very into the idea that I was a personal creator of 'my' reality....and what's even more, I was damned good at it! I had myself pegged as a master creator of pretty much anything I desired. I still maintain, there is nothing in life I've strongly, clearly, 'wanted/intended' that I haven't received. That doesn't mean though that I as a person am doing something "TO" create/manifest "MY" desires. That's just an 'in the dream' of the unfolding story and the inherent, appearing patterns within that story. Personal you is not creating, Impersonal you is creating, life is not moving separately from impersonal you. |
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Post by Figgles on Aug 19, 2021 18:11:02 GMT
Of course experience is not moving separately. In asserting that there is a 'you' that creates his 'own' experience, you are actually asserting separation! It's most definitely not a new idea at all. At one point I was very into the idea that I was a personal creator of 'my' reality....and what's even more, I was damned good at it! I had myself pegged as a master creator of pretty much anything I desired. I still maintain, there is nothing in life I've strongly, clearly, 'wanted/intended' that I haven't received. That doesn't mean though that I as a person am doing something "TO" create/manifest "MY" desires. That's just an 'in the dream' of the unfolding story and the inherent, appearing patterns within that story. Personal you is not creating, Impersonal you is creating, life is not moving separately from impersonal you. More and more I am turning my nose up the terms 'creating/creation/created.' There's all sorts of surmising inherent in the idea that the experience of an unfolding story is 'being created,' be it by a person and his personal thoughts/feelings/vibes or be it by an impersonal energy/force....some-thing/non-thing. Ultimately, all there is is this present, here, now immediacy, the ground and what is appearing. An idea about 'creation' involves an overlay of imagination. |
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Post by Gopal on Aug 22, 2021 4:06:18 GMT
Personal you is not creating, Impersonal you is creating, life is not moving separately from impersonal you. More and more I am turning my nose up the terms 'creating/creation/created.' There's all sorts of surmising inherent in the idea that the experience of an unfolding story is 'being created,' be it by a person and his personal thoughts/feelings/vibes or be it by an impersonal energy/force....some-thing/non-thing. Ultimately, all there is is this present, here, now immediacy, the ground and what is appearing. An idea about 'creation' involves an overlay of imagination. let's disagree! It's highly unfortunate that you don't know how creative this universe(consciousnesses) is! |
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Post by Figgles on Aug 22, 2021 4:30:39 GMT
More and more I am turning my nose up the terms 'creating/creation/created.' There's all sorts of surmising inherent in the idea that the experience of an unfolding story is 'being created,' be it by a person and his personal thoughts/feelings/vibes or be it by an impersonal energy/force....some-thing/non-thing. Ultimately, all there is is this present, here, now immediacy, the ground and what is appearing. An idea about 'creation' involves an overlay of imagination. let's disagree! It's highly unfortunate that you don't know how creative this universe(consciousnesses) is! You are ascribing quality/property to that which defies such. It's the idea that something is 'creating' or, something is 'being created' that I take issue with. I think 'infinite possibility' (which is a pointer) sometimes become conflated with an erroneous idea about an existent process of 'creation.' |
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Post by Gopal on Aug 22, 2021 4:33:05 GMT
let's disagree! It's highly unfortunate that you don't know how creative this universe(consciousnesses) is! You are ascribing quality/property to that which defies such. It's the idea that something is 'creating' or, something is 'being created' that I take issue with. I think 'infinite possibility' (which is a pointer) sometimes become conflated with an erroneous idea about an existent process of 'creation.' Let us disagree! |
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Post by Figgles on Aug 22, 2021 4:45:18 GMT
You are ascribing quality/property to that which defies such. It's the idea that something is 'creating' or, something is 'being created' that I take issue with. I think 'infinite possibility' (which is a pointer) sometimes become conflated with an erroneous idea about an existent process of 'creation.' disagree!   |
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Post by Esponja on Aug 23, 2021 18:59:48 GMT
let's disagree! It's highly unfortunate that you don't know how creative this universe(consciousnesses) is! You are ascribing quality/property to that which defies such. It's the idea that something is 'creating' or, something is 'being created' that I take issue with. I think 'infinite possibility' (which is a pointer) sometimes become conflated with an erroneous idea about an existent process of 'creation.' Yes life force happens. Creation is in every moment but nobody doing it. |
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Post by Figgles on Aug 23, 2021 21:03:38 GMT
You are ascribing quality/property to that which defies such. It's the idea that something is 'creating' or, something is 'being created' that I take issue with. I think 'infinite possibility' (which is a pointer) sometimes become conflated with an erroneous idea about an existent process of 'creation.' Yes life force happens. Creation is in every moment but nobody doing it. Nice way of putting it.  |
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Post by Gopal on Aug 27, 2021 4:03:08 GMT
You are ascribing quality/property to that which defies such. It's the idea that something is 'creating' or, something is 'being created' that I take issue with. I think 'infinite possibility' (which is a pointer) sometimes become conflated with an erroneous idea about an existent process of 'creation.' Yes life force happens. Creation is in every moment but nobody doing it. It's automatic, yes. |
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