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Post by Gopal on Aug 5, 2021 14:31:29 GMT
Yes, most of the time, she is simply doing copy paste of what Enigma has written. I was just confirming that I understand what enigma was talking about ok
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Post by Figgles on Aug 5, 2021 20:25:09 GMT
Can you please define what constitutes a "happy experience," vs. and "unhappy experience"? Feelings do very much ebb and flow...arise and fall....no permanence there for ANY particular feeling, but that does not mean that a moment of an abject feeling/sense of happiness when it ebbs, will necessarily ebb all the way down to abject "unhappiness." In freedom from all feelings, those basic labels of "happiness/unhappiness" are no longer as clear, because in freedom, there is a pervasive sense of equanimity, regardless of what's happening. A feeling of sorrow for example can have a 'sweetness' to it....a sense of frustration, an air of humor to it. Happy is when you feel happy and unhappy is when you feel unhappy. The story content doesn't matter, it differ for you and to the sadist.
You copy paste enigma's line. You are not writing anything from your own life experience!
Here goes... I shared an experience I had 2 days ago with a wounded Magpie that exemplifies such. There was both sorrow and beauty...sadness and appreciation, even a sort of reverence/joy-bliss all those same feelings arose within that particular experience. In SR, there is a base-line sense of goodness/well-being/contentment that rides along with all experience....that baseline feeling/sense colors and blends with the other arising feelings.
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Post by Figgles on Aug 5, 2021 20:29:28 GMT
Yes, most of the time, she is simply doing copy paste of what Enigma has written. Bullshit. I often offer all sorts of very personal examples to augment the point I making.
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Post by Figgles on Aug 5, 2021 20:48:34 GMT
Happy is when you feel happy and unhappy is when you feel unhappy. The story content doesn't matter, it differ for you and to the sadist. Can you please describe the feeling of "happy"...? How about the feeling of "unhappy"? What are the characteristics of each and how do they differ? Do those feelings have certain thoughts/ideas wrapped up in them...if so, what are they?
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Post by muttley on Aug 6, 2021 6:20:30 GMT
Yes, most of the time, she is simply doing copy paste of what Enigma has written. Bullshit. I often offer all sorts of very personal examples to augment the point I making. yes, you definitely have your own voice. Sometimes it can be quite profound, in and of it's own right .. other times, it can be very brittle, closed, arrogant and even .. jealous ...
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Post by Figgles on Aug 6, 2021 6:31:23 GMT
Bullshit. I often offer all sorts of very personal examples to augment the point I making. yes, you definitely have your own voice. Sometimes it can be quite profound, in and of it's own right .. other times, it can be very brittle, closed, arrogant and even .. jealous ... 'Brittle, closed, arrogant,'....I can understand how if you think I'm talkin' outta my butt you might think that...but 'jealous'...? ...can't say I get that one...jealous of persons or of relayed states.....SR status?....jealous of what exactly?
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Post by muttley on Aug 6, 2021 6:33:56 GMT
yes, you definitely have your own voice. Sometimes it can be quite profound, in and of it's own right .. other times, it can be very brittle, closed, arrogant and even .. jealous ... 'Brittle, closed, arrogant,'....I can understand how if you think I'm talkin' outta my butt you might think that...but 'jealous'...? ...can't say I get that one...jealous of persons or of relayed states.....SR status?....jealous of what exactly?
heh heh to quote figgy/figless circa' 2013/2014 .. "I call'em like I sees 'em "
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Post by Figgles on Aug 6, 2021 6:39:04 GMT
'Brittle, closed, arrogant,'....I can understand how if you think I'm talkin' outta my butt you might think that...but 'jealous'...? ...can't say I get that one...jealous of persons or of relayed states.....SR status?....jealous of what exactly? heh heh to quote figgy/figless circa' 2013/2014 .. "I call'em like I sees 'em " Which is absolute fine. What/who am I jealous of?
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Post by muttley on Aug 6, 2021 6:48:07 GMT
heh heh to quote figgy/figless circa' 2013/2014 .. "I call'em like I sees 'em " Which is absolute fine. What/who am I jealous of? Seems to me you can't let go of reefs and zd shutting down the dialog. The fury with which you drag their stuff over here really borders on cliche.
Now, I apologize in advance for the appearance of a double-bind, but seriously, if you keep typing what you're typing now you're just proving the assertion.
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Post by Esponja on Aug 6, 2021 6:57:28 GMT
Bullshit. I often offer all sorts of very personal examples to augment the point I making. yes, you definitely have your own voice. Sometimes it can be quite profound, in and of it's own right .. other times, it can be very brittle, closed, arrogant and even .. jealous ... I don’t see it. Funny how our perceptions can convert outwardly. Anyway, will back out now as don’t want it to be seen as I’m sticking up for anyone. I just don’t experience Figgles in the same way and we exchange messages daily now.
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