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Post by Tenka on May 27, 2017 7:27:27 GMT
U have said yourself that there is no-one present per se it just appears as if there is .. That's why there is such a gross misunderstanding surrounding what you are and identifying with what you are not...  Well it difficult to relate to what you are not if your not in attachment and identification mode ..  Such a peep wouldn't have a thought of what they are or what they are not . They certainly couldn't suggest that what is present is just an appearance within consciousness for example cos that an evaluated identified attachment .. |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 15:02:53 GMT
That's why there is such a gross misunderstanding surrounding what you are and identifying with what you are not... Well it difficult to relate to what you are not if your not in attachment and identification mode .. Such a peep wouldn't have a thought of what they are or what they are not . They certainly couldn't suggest that what is present is just an appearance within consciousness for example cos that an evaluated identified attachment .. Yes, and what do we call that identification with the body, mind and emotions....suffering isn't it? |
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Post by Tenka on May 27, 2017 18:40:36 GMT
Well it difficult to relate to what you are not if your not in attachment and identification mode .. Such a peep wouldn't have a thought of what they are or what they are not . They certainly couldn't suggest that what is present is just an appearance within consciousness for example cos that an evaluated identified attachment .. Yes, and what do we call that identification with the body, mind and emotions....suffering isn't it? Sent from my SM-G903W using Tapatalk Suffering is I am . If you relate to what you are not as you said earlier, then you are suffering through I am not this . |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 21:16:46 GMT
Yes, and what do we call that identification with the body, mind and emotions....suffering isn't it? Sent from my SM-G903W using Tapatalk Suffering is I am . If you relate to what you are not as you said earlier, then you are suffering through I am not this . One suffers because they identify with the belief in what they are not. If they don't identify with what they are not, then there goes the suffering. |
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Post by Theodore on May 27, 2017 22:42:20 GMT
Suffering is I am . If you relate to what you are not as you said earlier, then you are suffering through I am not this . One suffers because they identify with the belief in what they are not. If they don't identify with what they are not, then there goes the suffering. If you are everything, you can't identify with what you are not. If you are something, what are you? If you are nothing, you can't identify with anything. In fact, you are not. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 2:16:09 GMT
One suffers because they identify with the belief in what they are not. If they don't identify with what they are not, then there goes the suffering. If you are everything, you can't identify with what you are not. If you are something, what are you? If you are nothing, you can't identify with anything. In fact, you are not. To believe you are everything, you are nothing, or something you have to believe a thought and then identify with it. In other words you identify with limitation, what you are not, isn't it? |
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Post by Theodore on May 28, 2017 2:28:43 GMT
If you are everything, you can't identify with what you are not. If you are something, what are you? If you are nothing, you can't identify with anything. In fact, you are not. To believe you are everything, you are nothing, or something you have to believe a thought and then identify with it. In other words you identify with limitation, what you are not, isn't it? Sent from my SM-T210R using Tapatalk So, you say we should not think about what we are? I could get down with that. Most people don't think about it that much. All there is to be is the experience of a very limited objective experience centered around a human body. If you interpret that to mean that you are a human, or the experiencer of a human, it has little significance. What you experience is limited, you are the experiencer, all you do is experience, therefore it could very well be said that you are limited. Beliefs are thoughts, aren't they? |
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Post by Tenka on May 28, 2017 9:08:26 GMT
Suffering is I am . If you relate to what you are not as you said earlier, then you are suffering through I am not this . One suffers because they identify with the belief in what they are not. If they don't identify with what they are not, then there goes the suffering. You can't go about your business not self identified . What does a dude do next when he is busting for a wee, when out in public, does he drop his trousers where he stands or does he head towards the gents toilets? Everything you do will be in reflection of what you think you are . What you believe you are . What you believe your not . Suffering is I am . If you pretend not to be self identified then your suffering in pretence . |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 12:46:09 GMT
Yes, and what do we call that identification with the body, mind and emotions....suffering isn't it? Sent from my SM-G903W using Tapatalk Suffering is I am . If you relate to what you are not as you said earlier, then you are suffering through I am not this . People suffer because they identified themselves to be something else other than human? What it is they have identified with? |
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Post by Tenka on May 28, 2017 18:30:39 GMT
Suffering is I am . If you relate to what you are not as you said earlier, then you are suffering through I am not this . People suffer because they identified themselves to be something else other than human? What it is they have identified with? There has to be something present for that something to identify themselves as that . Doesn't matter what one relates what they are with or too .. It's an automatic process of elimination / evaluation . You look at the tree and see that you are either the same as the tree or not . Either way one identifies what they perceive with what you are . Beyond perception is beyond identification . That beyond ness is also beyond attachment, butt you would be surprised in how many peeps say they are unattached and not self identified . There able to make such a statement through the very same self attachment / identification that is supposedly absent . |
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