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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2017 15:15:12 GMT
So if you were born without a brain or it was damaged you are still aware? Sent from my SM-G903W using Tapatalk You are not understanding the basic here. You appear in your dream, you are seeing your body in your dream, Now tell me whether that body has the brain? Why do you think the body I see doesn’t have a brain? Sent from my SM-G903W using Tapatalk |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2017 15:22:22 GMT
You are not understanding the basic here. You appear in your dream, you are seeing your body in your dream, Now tell me whether that body has the brain? Why do you think the body I see doesn’t have a brain? Sent from my SM-G903W using Tapatalk Is your dream body has the brain? Isn't your dream body just appearing? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2017 16:06:37 GMT
Why do you think the body I see doesn’t have a brain? Sent from my SM-G903W using Tapatalk Is your dream body has the brain? Isn't your dream body just appearing? If the dream brain isn't in the dream body, where is it? Sent from my SM-G903W using Tapatalk |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2017 19:01:54 GMT
Is your dream body has the brain? Isn't your dream body just appearing? If the dream brain isn't in the dream body, where is it? Sent from my SM-G903W using Tapatalk Lol  |
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Post by Figgles on Apr 30, 2017 19:36:32 GMT
I am not saying that I don't experience irritation, I am obviously experiencing rollercoaster, other side of the rollercoaster always put me into the problem, my statement is, "Alfio goes Reefs comes" , people is replaced, but my inner experience remains the same. But what you are saying through your thrid paragraph, you separating the inner from outer, not only you, but Satch as well. The same kind of mistake you, Satch, someNOTHING makes ! If a circumstance no longer has the power to pull my rollercoaster down to the level where I am getting swept up and away into negative thoughts and feelings about that circumstance, that does not equal 'separating the inner from outer.' In fact, I would say that it's the other way around. IF circumstances have the power to pull you "away from" the peace of being, isn't that the epitome of experiencing 'separation'? There's the experiencing of witnessing in my dreams, when I am lucid, and yes, at times, there's a sense of 'creating' or rather I would say, 'directing' what appears in the sleeping dream, as in the waking dream, but the actual 'creation of,' as in the whole means and mechanics of how what appears, appears, I have no knowledge at all, about the intricate workings of that. All I know is that stuff appears to me, and stuff appears seemingly in accordance with how I feel and think, in other words, my focus, both direction and content seem to affect the content of experience, but that's as far as I can go in terms of what I know about creation. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2017 19:52:15 GMT
I am not saying that I don't experience irritation, I am obviously experiencing rollercoaster, other side of the rollercoaster always put me into the problem, my statement is, "Alfio goes Reefs comes" , people is replaced, but my inner experience remains the same. But what you are saying through your thrid paragraph, you separating the inner from outer, not only you, but Satch as well. The same kind of mistake you, Satch, someNOTHING makes ! If a circumstance no longer has the power to pull my rollercoaster down to the level where I am getting swept up and away into negative thoughts and feelings about that circumstance, that does not equal 'separating the inner from outer.' In fact, I would say that it's the other way around. IF circumstances have the power to pull you "away from" the peace of being, isn't that the epitome of experiencing 'separation'? There's the experiencing of witnessing in my dreams, when I am lucid, and yes, at times, there's a sense of 'creating' or rather I would say, 'directing' what appears in the sleeping dream, as in the waking dream, but the actual 'creation of,' as in the whole means and mechanics of how what appears, appears, I have no knowledge at all, about the intricate workings of that. All I know is that stuff appears to me, and stuff appears seemingly in accordance with how I feel and think, in other words, my focus, both direction and content seem to affect the content of experience, but that's as far as I can go in terms of what I know about creation. Yeah, the word creator doesn't say very much except in terms of a contradiction. If I was the creator why can't I create whatever I wanted? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2017 20:02:04 GMT
I am not saying that I don't experience irritation, I am obviously experiencing rollercoaster, other side of the rollercoaster always put me into the problem, my statement is, "Alfio goes Reefs comes" , people is replaced, but my inner experience remains the same. But what you are saying through your thrid paragraph, you separating the inner from outer, not only you, but Satch as well. The same kind of mistake you, Satch, someNOTHING makes ! If a circumstance no longer has the power to pull my rollercoaster down to the level where I am getting swept up and away into negative thoughts and feelings about that circumstance, that does not equal 'separating the inner from outer.' In fact, I would say that it's the other way around. IF circumstances have the power to pull you "away from" the peace of being, isn't that the epitome of experiencing 'separation'? There's the experiencing of witnessing in my dreams, when I am lucid, and yes, at times, there's a sense of 'creating' or rather I would say, 'directing' what appears in the sleeping dream, as in the waking dream, but the actual 'creation of,' as in the whole means and mechanics of how what appears, appears, I have no knowledge at all, about the intricate workings of that. All I know is that stuff appears to me, and stuff appears seemingly in accordance with how I feel and think, in other words, my focus, both direction and content seem to affect the content of experience, but that's as far as I can go in terms of what I know about creation. This is where I find very strong problem there. Your peace of being is something different from what's happening out there? To the second bolder line : I believe you misunderstood the word 'Create', but it's okay. The argument is about witnessing here. It's very clear that we are not creating our thought/perception, we are just witnessing our thought/perception, So we both agree that we do not have freewill, Or do you want to argue with me that we have freewill?(I hope you are with me here so there is no need of argument in this place). Since we are not creating what's appearing to us, we are the silent witness behind the scene, agree? You say anything could happen outside but that need not to pull you into the negativity, So what's happening outside is independent of your consciousness, You are ONLY looking at those happenings. Right? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2017 20:02:39 GMT
If a circumstance no longer has the power to pull my rollercoaster down to the level where I am getting swept up and away into negative thoughts and feelings about that circumstance, that does not equal 'separating the inner from outer.' In fact, I would say that it's the other way around. IF circumstances have the power to pull you "away from" the peace of being, isn't that the epitome of experiencing 'separation'? There's the experiencing of witnessing in my dreams, when I am lucid, and yes, at times, there's a sense of 'creating' or rather I would say, 'directing' what appears in the sleeping dream, as in the waking dream, but the actual 'creation of,' as in the whole means and mechanics of how what appears, appears, I have no knowledge at all, about the intricate workings of that. All I know is that stuff appears to me, and stuff appears seemingly in accordance with how I feel and think, in other words, my focus, both direction and content seem to affect the content of experience, but that's as far as I can go in terms of what I know about creation. Yeah, the word creator doesn't say very much except in terms of a contradiction. If I was the creator why can't I create whatever I wanted? That's the interesting question. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2017 20:04:11 GMT
Meet you tomorrow figgles and source, good night.
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Post by Figgles on Apr 30, 2017 20:21:17 GMT
If a circumstance no longer has the power to pull my rollercoaster down to the level where I am getting swept up and away into negative thoughts and feelings about that circumstance, that does not equal 'separating the inner from outer.' In fact, I would say that it's the other way around. IF circumstances have the power to pull you "away from" the peace of being, isn't that the epitome of experiencing 'separation'? There's the experiencing of witnessing in my dreams, when I am lucid, and yes, at times, there's a sense of 'creating' or rather I would say, 'directing' what appears in the sleeping dream, as in the waking dream, but the actual 'creation of,' as in the whole means and mechanics of how what appears, appears, I have no knowledge at all, about the intricate workings of that. All I know is that stuff appears to me, and stuff appears seemingly in accordance with how I feel and think, in other words, my focus, both direction and content seem to affect the content of experience, but that's as far as I can go in terms of what I know about creation. |
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