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Post by Figgles on Feb 1, 2019 17:53:57 GMT
Yeah, that's it. Let's face it, to ego, the promise of 'absence of resistance/Peace' sounds like a rather raw deal in comparison to a huge house and a garage full of fancy cars.  Ha! Yes. I notice when I talk about Peace as an absence being the goal, there's mostly a resounding silence. yeah...am seeing so clearly now, that when I argued with you in the past about Peace being a some-thing that appeared within experience, that was ego trying to find a little something in it for itself....that interest in creating a bridge between Truth and experience, I had, playing out. & To be clear, we are talking about an absence that impacts experience, but it's important to see, "Peace" is not itself, an arising within experience. (And again, this brings us back to the whole discussion about nothing within experience being Truthy.) The Peace you speak of goes hand in hand with the apprehension of Truth. |
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Post by muttley on Feb 1, 2019 22:27:59 GMT
Ha! Yes. I notice when I talk about Peace as an absence being the goal, there's mostly a resounding silence. yeah...am seeing so clearly now, that when I argued with you in the past about Peace being a some-thing that appeared within experience, that was ego trying to find a little something in it for itself....that interest in creating a bridge between Truth and experience, I had, playing out.
& To be clear, we are talking about an absence that impacts experience, but it's important to see, "Peace" is not itself, an arising within experience. (And again, this brings us back to the whole discussion about nothing within experience being Truthy.)
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Post by Enigma on Feb 2, 2019 14:52:36 GMT
Ha! Yes. I notice when I talk about Peace as an absence being the goal, there's mostly a resounding silence. yeah...am seeing so clearly now, that when I argued with you in the past about Peace being a some-thing that appeared within experience, that was ego trying to find a little something in it for itself....that interest in creating a bridge between Truth and experience, I had, playing out. & To be clear, we are talking about an absence that impacts experience, but it's important to see, "Peace" is not itself, an arising within experience. (And again, this brings us back to the whole discussion about nothing within experience being Truthy.) The Peace you speak of goes hand in hand with the apprehension of Truth. Good point. |
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Post by Enigma on Feb 2, 2019 14:58:00 GMT
yeah...am seeing so clearly now, that when I argued with you in the past about Peace being a some-thing that appeared within experience, that was ego trying to find a little something in it for itself....that interest in creating a bridge between Truth and experience, I had, playing out.
& To be clear, we are talking about an absence that impacts experience, but it's important to see, "Peace" is not itself, an arising within experience. (And again, this brings us back to the whole discussion about nothing within experience being Truthy.)
The Peace you speak of goes hand in hand with the apprehension of Truth. Are you coming out of hibernation or just poking your head out of the cave?  |
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Post by Figgles on Feb 2, 2019 17:14:15 GMT
yeah...am seeing so clearly now, that when I argued with you in the past about Peace being a some-thing that appeared within experience, that was ego trying to find a little something in it for itself....that interest in creating a bridge between Truth and experience, I had, playing out.
& To be clear, we are talking about an absence that impacts experience, but it's important to see, "Peace" is not itself, an arising within experience. (And again, this brings us back to the whole discussion about nothing within experience being Truthy.)
The Peace you speak of goes hand in hand with the apprehension of Truth. I like it. |
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Post by muttley on Feb 2, 2019 19:21:50 GMT
Are you coming out of hibernation or just poking your head out of the cave?  |
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Post by Enigma on Feb 3, 2019 0:34:20 GMT
Are you coming out of hibernation or just poking your head out of the cave? I thought for sure you made that, but sure enough, somebody has worked out the physics  |
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Post by Figgles on Feb 3, 2019 18:02:11 GMT
Yes. Exactly. And really, that's what most LOA seekers are missing; When those changes happen in mind, the changes in creation/manifestation don't seem nearly as important. And that's the catch 22.....when the manifestation isn't deemed to be of such great importance and the interest in it is more of a natural arising of interest/impetus to action, vs. a burning desire/want/need, it usually manifests easily and effortlessly. Yes, and I see that as a kind of alignment since these 'burning needs' are actually illusion based. Just want to expand on this one a bit, cause it's such a good point. The very interest in controlling life, controlling outcomes, has that same illusion at its basis. That said, there is a difference between wanting to control outcomes vs. preferring a particular outcome. The main difference being 'wanting to control' indicates that one believes in personal control, that there is such a thing AS control, whereas, merely preferring a particular outcome, doesn't. The moment one starts desiring to control outcome, a preference has obviously been infused with the illusion of personal control. Absent a desire to personally control outcomes, there'd be no interest in practicing LOA. |
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Post by Figgles on Feb 6, 2019 20:29:39 GMT
Hell is Belichick and Brady winning another Super Bowl. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 6:51:49 GMT
So you say creation would rearrange itself when we accept the world as it is. So you say that rearranging is essential for struggle to cease? yes? That may include changes in creation, but mostly it's changes in mind. That's what I termed as " rearrange itself". |
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