SR & CC anyone?

someNOTHING! said:
Yes, the pointer about "becoming conscious" is about waking up from "being something in a dream" to "the dream being within the one and only somenothing", hehe.

Peeps keep identifying with something that has to realize something. As such, there's looking outward for that something, identifying as what they assume is in the middle, not following the "what is looking" pointer to its source. Typically, in discussion/conversation, it's the distractions of the dream that compel unconscious identification with the dream character. "Like sands through the hour glass, so are the days of our lives...."

SDP: Love it!

Bag to digging holes.


Would likewise ask ("nuts and bolts"), are you always aware of the dream, or do you sometimes go back to being lost in the dream?

SomeNothing: It seems the question might be best approached via the ocean-wave analogy, which most peeps seem to understand, but perhaps only to varying degrees. That's kind of why "Awareness", serves as a bettererer pointer to the inner most depths of the ocean; whereas, using "Consciousness" to point to the movements near/at the surface of the ocean (i.e., of which we can be conscious). The surface itself is merely the story/dream in which interactions, consensus reality, and all that jazz take place. The fact that all analogies and metaphors reach ultimately fail is assumed, but that's where pointers are born and die, depending on the degree of understanding.

The question alludes to the surface only, so that's what is being addressed here. In awareness of the human condition, rarely does someone question whether they're lost or not when all is positive. The question of being "lost" typically refers to the negative aspects of life in which most will feel overwhelmed. We're addressing both here though.

The concept of "waves" used here refers to when peeps feel great, are happy with the way things are, or things are going fine, so most are quite fine to identify with being the wave. To take a step back from identifying with a wave, the whole surface can be seen for what it is. It can be noticed that there can be no wave without a trough. This is where people often get to feeling "lost" as they are being pulled into the depths of despair and visceral suffering. But clearly, both are on the surface. Most peeps live and assume the "experience in identification with the wave or trough", wanting to be the one over the other.

It is interesting though that when the surface comes to a perfect calm clarity, for however long that timelessness lasts (yes, a seemingly paradoxical poetic license is used here to convey), it is "seen" as the mirror/mind that it is, what is happening within what one actually IS. This is what is referred to as "everything is a dream". But once seen, one is awake to the dream and its impermanence. Once realized, it can never be lost except by falling into the dream that is believed to be true.

Does this point to an "answer" that satisfies the present curiosity? I can get more personal, though it is likely that that will give rise to more questions, which, in turn, will give rise to answers that sound brown bearish and heartless on their surface.

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Note: Huineng's Mirror is not about mastering the concept or the logic of it on the surface most understand as consensual reality, but "seeing/realizing/living" the profound depths that give rise to that surface. As such, it derails and/or undermines all discursive thought that once gave life to consensual reality. This is what starts to choke the life out of the psychological self. Not to put the cart before the donkey, but once one can learn to "allow" that derailment/undermining/choking to happen, and begin to see clarity come into being, it gets a little "easier".

There is a mirror. There is no mirror. There is a mirror.

The first mirror does not equate with the third mirror. This cannot be overemphasized.

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Zendancer:A CC reveals that reality is not what we imagine.

What we call "reality" is alive, aware, incomprehensibly intelligent, and UNIFIED.

SR reveals that we are NOT who we imagine, and that what we are is Reality, Itself, UNIFIED. There are other lesser realizations, but those are the two big ones. The bottom line is that there are NOT two here. Not two. Not two. Not two!

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