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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2022 1:35:04 GMT
I see no connection between the two. What's happening with the pandemic is samsara. Some people are being completely taken in and ruled by the narrative. Others are looking more deeply and questioning that narrative. All of this is taking place against a background of fear and hysteria. For me none of this has anything to do with any kind of awakening on a collective level. There have been much darker periods in history as well as more "enlightened" times, but I don't mean that in any kind of spiritual sense. Whatever happens the world will always be the dualistic realm of samsara. Yes I think that too. I just see it as more ‘story’ yet it has a strong pull for me. And for me too. And why wouldn't it? We are also individuals. |
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Post by Andrew on Jan 10, 2022 1:39:57 GMT
There's 2 people that I know, that....for a long time....didn't have the vaccine. And then they did. I've noted a change in their attitude since then....one of them in particular, I was quite shocked by the change....actually supporting vaccine passes. Maybe it's different for these enlightened folks. I would bet that Byron Katie....whether she's had the vax or not (and I would strongly guess that she has) would have zero interest in the story one way or another. Sailor Bob....at his age....hard to imagine him getting involved in the story, whether he's had it or not. But the younger ones....maybe with children to consider......maybe their focus would be different if they were on the 'other side of the fence'. Great point. For one who no longer will experience much impact either way things go, it makes sense there will be less interest and impetus to get involved in the story. Degree of interest is impacted by personal circumstance. yeah, I think that's basically it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2022 1:41:57 GMT
I’d like to start a chat here: It’s still a struggle for me to understand the pull into this particular story when interest in most stories, beliefs, mind chatter is all but gone. When you think about it, is it any different to law of attraction, astrology or anything else going on in the world? Famine? Animal rights etc? Why are non-dualists pulled in here? It’s all seen to be ‘one’. No other. No out there, no in here.
What does wakefulness truly mean? I might not like the fact that tyrants are trying to take over the world, but ultimately, I know it's all unfolding in absolute perfection. If you don't like what's going on that means you identify with what's going on. If the tyranny is unfolding with absolute perfection you could decide to send in a seal team to take out the tyrants and hope that unfolds with absolute perfection also. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2022 1:45:58 GMT
I think you answered me below and I know you and I have discussed this outside of here too but I suppose personally there are times where I am triggered or feel a sense of fear. Am certainly not at peace when I entertain where it could be going but when I compare to many I see who believe in anything without question or those who I know to be depressed or convinced the v will kill them, I’m certainly not there either. I also know of ‘enlighted’ or self-realized folk who are fully vaccinated. I know quite a few. Those people sense that this is a power play but they don’t buy into much of the other stuff and I doubt they’d spend hours researching or watching videos about it. There’s many religious folk who are following this side of the story too, I’m curious about that. Is it revelations or not being in fear? Freedom over fear?? There's 2 people that I know, that....for a long time....didn't have the vaccine. And then they did. I've noted a change in their attitude since then....one of them in particular, I was quite shocked by the change....actually supporting vaccine passes. This is when you realize that herd instinct is much more powerful than herd immunity. |
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Post by Esponja on Jan 10, 2022 2:21:42 GMT
Yes I think that too. I just see it as more ‘story’ yet it has a strong pull for me. And for me too. And why wouldn't it? We are also individuals. Are you interested in all stories? For me, much neurosis and self judgment anf judgment of others disappeared yet I am judging this unfolding. ‘Love all of the dream or none of it, you’re issue is, you only love some..’ (paraphrasing Niz) |
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Post by Esponja on Jan 10, 2022 2:22:29 GMT
There's 2 people that I know, that....for a long time....didn't have the vaccine. And then they did. I've noted a change in their attitude since then....one of them in particular, I was quite shocked by the change....actually supporting vaccine passes. This is when you realize that herd instinct is much more powerful than herd immunity. Herd instinct.. I like it |
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Post by Esponja on Jan 10, 2022 2:23:20 GMT
I might not like the fact that tyrants are trying to take over the world, but ultimately, I know it's all unfolding in absolute perfection. If you don't like what's going on that means you identify with what's going on. If the tyranny is unfolding with absolute perfection you could decide to send in a seal team to take out the tyrants and hope that unfolds with absolute perfection also. That’s what I mean. Am not ok with what I see. There’s judgment. Who is judging? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2022 2:25:51 GMT
And for me too. And why wouldn't it? We are also individuals. Are you interested in all stories? For me, much neurosis and self judgment anf judgment of others disappeared yet I am judging this unfolding. ‘Love all of the dream or none of it, you’re issue is, you only love some..’ (paraphrasing Niz) If you're spiritually evolved you're supposed to be non-judgmental. Lol. You are quoting Niz. He was very judgmental in throwing people out of his satsangs, especially followers of Osho. 😆 |
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Post by Esponja on Jan 10, 2022 2:28:29 GMT
Are you interested in all stories? For me, much neurosis and self judgment anf judgment of others disappeared yet I am judging this unfolding. ‘Love all of the dream or none of it, you’re issue is, you only love some..’ (paraphrasing Niz) If you're spiritually evolved you're supposed to be non-judgmental. Lol. You are quoting Niz. He was very judgmental in throwing people out of his satsangs, especially followers of Osho. 😆 I suppose the question then is ‘who is judging?’ ‘Who has a problem with it?’ There’s no way out🤪. Enlightenment- travelling lighter.. that’s all I guess. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2022 2:29:55 GMT
If you don't like what's going on that means you identify with what's going on. If the tyranny is unfolding with absolute perfection you could decide to send in a seal team to take out the tyrants and hope that unfolds with absolute perfection also. That’s what I mean. Am not ok with what I see. There’s judgment. Who is judging? You are judging. It's very simple. Just stick with what you actually experience. |
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