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Post by Gopal on Mar 1, 2021 4:26:43 GMT
You like this font settings? It looks very good in the cell phone but it doesn't look well in the laptop. But it's okay if you choose this color, just asking and no intent to change it.
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Post by Gopal on Mar 1, 2021 4:29:01 GMT
Hi Enigma, since we decided to switch back to gab, I am taking the post from there and posting it here, I hope that you are okay with this change. You beleive or not, I perfectly know that fact that nobody is responsible for what's happening but still blaming is arising. Actually in my case, I always try to adjust the pleasure side of the roller coaster when it goes too high and low, could that be the reason still my rollercoaster is unstable? Explain to me the logic that makes it possible for you to blame when you know nobody is to blame. I find it, quite literally, impossible to do. Are you asking me the situation in which I find people to blame? |
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Post by Gopal on Mar 1, 2021 4:31:39 GMT
You used reality creation for putting beliefs into your client's subconscious? What? What kind of reality creation is this? I know about how to program other's subconscious mind secretly. But I did not get what you are talking now. Yes, it's all dream stuff. No doubt! But this law(law of attraction) we have been talking about is actually about how dream unfolds! Did you notice that?
Any laws that you think you see that dictate how the dream unfolds, are actually themselves, part and parcel of the dream-scape....dream-stuff! Those too, like all other perceivables, are empty appearance only. Not Truth. Then it should randomly imagine the reality but why then one follows another? Once again, Why believing in separation causes the suffering? |
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Post by Gopal on Mar 1, 2021 4:38:16 GMT
You used reality creation for putting beliefs into your client's subconscious? What? What kind of reality creation is this? I know about how to program other's subconscious mind secretly. But I did not get what you are talking now.
Yes, it's all dream stuff. No doubt! But this law(law of attraction) we have been talking about is actually about how dream unfolds! Did you notice that?
‘By’ not ‘for’ Change beliefs at subconscious ‘appears’ to make a difference in life. You can't even know whether other people exists, they could be figments of your consciousness. The people those who are in your life are actually creation of you. Change your belief you would change the people in your life too. But changing the belief is not your hand obviously. |
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Post by Gopal on Mar 1, 2021 4:40:28 GMT
Reality, is neither objective, nor subjective, and as the Buddhist's say, form is emptiness, emptiness is form.
Reality is subjective. The question arises whether we are receiving the perception or creating the perception, first one assumes the objective reality and the second one assumes the subjective reality. |
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Post by Gopal on Mar 1, 2021 4:43:03 GMT
If you don't believe in separation, Is suffering possible? Again, separation is much more encompassing than just a belief. But no, suffering (the adding on of a mental overlay to a natural/basic feeling/emotion) cannot happen unless there's a separate, volitional person being imagined into the scenario...(an entity who suffers). Then belief in separation causes the suffering, eh? |
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Post by Figgles on Mar 1, 2021 4:47:04 GMT
Any laws that you think you see that dictate how the dream unfolds, are actually themselves, part and parcel of the dream-scape....dream-stuff! Those too, like all other perceivables, are empty appearance only. Not Truth. I'm not sure how you arrived at that, but the fact that your statement contains a 'should' indicates that mind is still involved, trying to work out the 'whys/hows' of why dream content is as it is. Patterns do appear in the dream, but you can't use those patterns to determine laws/Truths about how dreams will always unfold.
The delusion of separation is the delusion of limitation, boundaries, lack, finiteness. |
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Post by Figgles on Mar 1, 2021 4:49:20 GMT
Reality, is neither objective, nor subjective, and as the Buddhist's say, form is emptiness, emptiness is form.
Reality is subjective. The question arises whether we are receiving the perception or creating the perception, first one assumes the objective reality and the second one assumes the subjective reality. How about neither of those options? There is no-one/no-thing receiving perception nor creating it. Just perception/creation. |
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Post by Figgles on Mar 1, 2021 4:56:36 GMT
Again, separation is much more encompassing than just a belief. But no, suffering (the adding on of a mental overlay to a natural/basic feeling/emotion) cannot happen unless there's a separate, volitional person being imagined into the scenario...(an entity who suffers). Then belief in separation causes the suffering, eh? As I've said, when I'm speaking with someone who is intent upon finding 'causation' within the dream, as you seem to be here, I try to avoid saying separation 'causes' suffering. That's not really how it is. More apt to say "Separation = suffering." Imagined separation = the delusion of being a separatr, volitional, limited, bound something/someone who needs certain conditions to be in place for peace to be. |
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Post by muttley on Mar 1, 2021 6:15:26 GMT
You can imagine that I don't grasp emptiness, if that's what you like. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.  I didn't say you fail to grasp 'emptiness.' My point was that you failed to grasp what Esponja was saying. She was very clearly expressing emptiness.  I grasped what she was saying just fine. You're projecting our disagreements onto my dialog with her. |
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I grasped what she was saying just fine. You're projecting our disagreements onto my dialog with her.