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Post by Figgles on Mar 1, 2021 3:35:51 GMT
See, again, you seem to be missing what Esponja is getting at, (what I see her saying) and are offering something back that isn't at all related. What I see Esponja describing is that she is seeing that all perceivables, everything sensed, thought, seen, heard, is appearing "immediately," or not at all, and it's in that "immediacy of appearing" that "knowing" IS. This is the same conversation as "when you turn your back on the mountain, do you know for certain it's still appearing"? She's describing the seeing through of an objectively existent world beyond immediate perception. You can imagine that I don't grasp emptiness, if that's what you like. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.  I didn't say you fail to grasp 'emptiness.' My point was that you failed to grasp what Esponja was saying. |
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Post by Figgles on Mar 1, 2021 3:38:28 GMT
Reality, is neither objective, nor subjective, and as the Buddhist's say, form is emptiness, emptiness is form.
How does that relate to Esponja's post? |
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Post by Figgles on Mar 1, 2021 3:42:23 GMT
No, I honestly don't grasp what you are saying and how it relates to what I was saying. Interesting though, that you didn't answer the direct question I posed to you here. If you had, you would have to admit that most of what you wrote to me in this sub-thread of dialog since that was based on your misunderstanding and reading past what I'd written. This is the question? "Did I contradict what she said, or did I affirm it?" You neither contradicted nor affirmed. You were addressing a different idea than what she was espousing. You 'missed' what she was saying. |
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Post by Gopal on Mar 1, 2021 3:53:15 GMT
Interesting though, that you didn't answer the direct question I posed to you here. If you had, you would have to admit that most of what you wrote to me in this sub-thread of dialog since that was based on your misunderstanding and reading past what I'd written. This is the question? "Did I contradict what she said, or did I affirm it?" You neither contradicted nor affirmed. You were addressing a different idea than what she was espousing. You 'missed' what she was saying. Hi Figgles! |
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Post by Gopal on Mar 1, 2021 4:11:18 GMT
Interesting though, that you didn't answer the direct question I posed to you here. If you had, you would have to admit that most of what you wrote to me in this sub-thread of dialog since that was based on your misunderstanding and reading past what I'd written. This is the question? "Did I contradict what she said, or did I affirm it?" You neither contradicted nor affirmed. You were addressing a different idea than what she was espousing. You 'missed' what she was saying. How come guest counts are too high now? What did you do? how suddenly? |
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Post by Figgles on Mar 1, 2021 4:19:46 GMT
This is the question? "Did I contradict what she said, or did I affirm it?" You neither contradicted nor affirmed. You were addressing a different idea than what she was espousing. You 'missed' what she was saying. Hi Figgles! Hi Gopal...welcome back!  |
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Post by Figgles on Mar 1, 2021 4:22:02 GMT
This is the question? "Did I contradict what she said, or did I affirm it?" You neither contradicted nor affirmed. You were addressing a different idea than what she was espousing. You 'missed' what she was saying. How come guest counts are too high now? What did you do? how suddenly? Did you read my messages on the other forum? I explained it there. |
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Post by Gopal on Mar 1, 2021 4:22:54 GMT
How come guest counts are too high now? What did you do? how suddenly? Did you read my messages on the other forum? I explained it there. You have posted this site some non-duality forum, that's what you say? |
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Post by Figgles on Mar 1, 2021 4:25:05 GMT
Did you read my messages on the other forum? I explained it there. You have posted this site some non-duality forum, that's what you say? No forums...just a few fb pages and a few on twitter. |
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Post by Gopal on Mar 1, 2021 4:25:28 GMT
You have posted this site some non-duality forum, that's what you say? No forums...just a few fb pages and a few on twitter. oh okay. |
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