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Jan 8, 2022 11:08:49 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2022 11:08:49 GMT
My children soon won’t be allowed to play extra-curricula sports so it is hard not to loose patience with people at this stage. Just trusting that it won’t last forever. Yeah, it was pretty clear to me from the start that masking is essentially child abuse, and the entire over-vax kerfuffle caught my attention even years before this. We have a wonderful warrior on this here in the US, a congresswoman from GA, Marjorie Taylor Greene. I don't agree with everything she's sellin', and I can understand how she might get on peoples nerves .. but .. man she draws the haters.  The people who have suffered the most during the pandemic are the young and the very old. The least able to defend themselves in our society. Children of all ages are having their lives literally retarded, all the way up through the college kids. There's an admissions gridlock with a multi-year build up now, you pay 10's of grand to sit in on zoom calls. Rather outrageous. And the competitive kids who want to hone a talent or a sport .. nope, sorry, you get a year stolen, tough luck. And then the old, they have to die alone. It's wrong. It's evil.
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Jan 8, 2022 17:05:29 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2022 17:05:29 GMT
It's purpose is to lessen the potential of serious illness and death, which apparently it does. First of all, it's not clear in this fog of information war if it's good even for that. Second of all, that's not what was promised at the outset. Why even call it a vaccine then? It's a prophylactic treatment. And if that's the new narrative, it raises the following questions (for just a start): [...] I watched some of the Lex Fridman podcast with Jay Bhattacharya (from the Great Barrington Declaration). He mentioned that in the original studies, when it became apparent that the random placebo control group was dying of covid at 10x the rate, they decided it was unethical to continue. People in the placebo group where given the option to take the vaccine. So it became harder to monitor for low probability side effects, because at that point they lost the two groups to compare. He also mentioned how they had reason to think (hope) that it would stop infection and transmission, but that part has failed, obviously. Also interesting, he mentioned that FDA and CDC still have other systems (besides VAERS) and that's how they found the myocarditis and blood clot side effects. |
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Jan 8, 2022 19:20:59 GMT
Post by Andrew on Jan 8, 2022 19:20:59 GMT
way I see it, yeah...the likes of Macron are partially bought in and tranced. Personally, I don't necessarily see Gates as 'higher' than them exactly, more just as someone that connects the dots between the countries. I don't feel that Gates really hides his philosophy, nor does Schwab. They believe in their philosophy and are quite proud of it really. But I believe there are levels higher than Schwab too.....names that have been really quite quiet in the last 18 months. The Rockefellers spring to mind. 2 brief videos here, the first is Schwab in 2016...totally open about his vision. The second is a 2 minute clip of the interview between Aaron Russo and Alex Jones in 2007, back when Alex Jones still talked kind of quietly. Aaron Russo was a Hollywood producer, mixing in all the powerful circles.... edit: videos the wrong way round obviously! Thanks for the vids. Yeah, it's funny how the "conspiracy theory" label just doesn't work anymore in many of the old instances that it did, because they're telling you what they want to do even as the soylent-blue-check-twitter-bots mock you for taking notice of it. You're probably way more up on the hierarchy that me .. all I know, as I've said a few times, is that one aspect of power nowadays is real and impenetrable anonymity, so, if you know someone's name - no matter how wealthy and ostensibly powerful - they likely are at least deferring to, if not answering to someone we don't and probably won't ever know about.Yes, agree. If we see them on the tv, they probably aren't THAT powerful. There are conspiracy folks that explore lineage, ancestry, connections, freemasons, black nobility, knights templar....all that stuff. They probably know most of the names, but I'm mostly in the dark....especially when it comes to Asia, Russia etc. Many of the leaders that are playing prominent roles in all this have ancestry that would be related to the now unfashionable word....'The Illuminati'. Not sure about Biden though. He really could be just a puppet. |
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Jan 8, 2022 23:40:48 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2022 23:40:48 GMT
I don't know "why" things happen the way they do. But here we are. What is the rationale for the vaccine mandates? The conclusion that I've come to by considering those questions, is that there is no rational explanation for that policy that is intellectually defensible. To save lives and protect an overwhelmed heathcare system would be my first guess |
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Jan 9, 2022 13:54:33 GMT
Post by ghostofmuttley on Jan 9, 2022 13:54:33 GMT
What is the rationale for the vaccine mandates? The conclusion that I've come to by considering those questions, is that there is no rational explanation for that policy that is intellectually defensible. Alito is a little pussy, huh? 'If we rule against the mandate are you going to say that the Court is killing people?' or what about Gorsuck... who literally said the flu kills "hundreds of thousands of people a year" (when its actually 36k on average) this is what happens when one gets their information from Fox n all... a mind corrupted by lies, hyperbole, exaggerations and non-literal commentaries tee hee yer gal Sandy had her shit all fucked up ...  .. that's what she gets for being one of CNN/MSNBC's last 213 viewers ... |
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Jan 9, 2022 14:03:49 GMT
Post by ghostofmuttley on Jan 9, 2022 14:03:49 GMT
Yes, most of what Dr. Malone said on Rogan has been stated by alt sources since the start: the financial incentives, the distorted statistics, the side effects, etc... Some of the early distortions were really easy to spot for anyone in the public with a critical eye: how they were estimating the death rate to be 3-5% by using a numerator that was limited to tested cases before testing became widespread. Some of the alt sources go out on a limb, but much of what they've been saying has been legitimized over time, so, in this strange information environment, you can get next years news today. |
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Jan 9, 2022 14:06:44 GMT
Post by ghostofmuttley on Jan 9, 2022 14:06:44 GMT
Yeah, it was pretty clear to me from the start that masking is essentially child abuse, and the entire over-vax kerfuffle caught my attention even years before this. We have a wonderful warrior on this here in the US, a congresswoman from GA, Marjorie Taylor Greene. I don't agree with everything she's sellin', and I can understand how she might get on peoples nerves .. but .. man she draws the haters.  The people who have suffered the most during the pandemic are the young and the very old. The least able to defend themselves in our society. Children of all ages are having their lives literally retarded, all the way up through the college kids. There's an admissions gridlock with a multi-year build up now, you pay 10's of grand to sit in on zoom calls. Rather outrageous. And the competitive kids who want to hone a talent or a sport .. nope, sorry, you get a year stolen, tough luck. And then the old, they have to die alone. It's wrong. It's evil.
Imagination is a double edged sword. Careful now, don't cut yerself Most of what I wrote there was opinion. Related to imagination for sure, but not the same, like at all. If you imagine that cancelling the season for a high school athlete with scholarship aspirations isn't damaging then you haven't cut anyone or yourself, but you are perceiving a hopelessly distorted version of the information landscape. |
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Jan 9, 2022 14:13:52 GMT
Post by ghostofmuttley on Jan 9, 2022 14:13:52 GMT
First of all, it's not clear in this fog of information war if it's good even for that. Second of all, that's not what was promised at the outset. Why even call it a vaccine then? It's a prophylactic treatment. And if that's the new narrative, it raises the following questions (for just a start): [...] I watched some of the Lex Fridman podcast with Jay Bhattacharya (from the Great Barrington Declaration). He mentioned that in the original studies, when it became apparent that the random placebo control group was dying of covid at 10x the rate, they decided it was unethical to continue. People in the placebo group where given the option to take the vaccine. So it became harder to monitor for low probability side effects, because at that point they lost the two groups to compare. He also mentioned how they had reason to think (hope) that it would stop infection and transmission, but that part has failed, obviously. Also interesting, he mentioned that FDA and CDC still have other systems (besides VAERS) and that's how they found the myocarditis and blood clot side effects. Interesting, thanks. It makes sense that it would have some effect, after all. That is the pharma track record, generally speaking. But from the very beginning my focus has been on cost/benefit. Perhaps it's possible that they could have kept a good cost/benefit ratio if they'd deployed the vaccines similar to how they deployed the flu vaccines in the past, but we're well beyond that now. Certainly in the overall social context, the costs have far outweighed the benefits, and if some of the existing claims about organ involvement (heart and ovaries in the young) and these new claims about the long term immuno compromise eventually prove true, then it's even a botch in the health context.
What's your current take on the athlete situation at this point?
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Post by ghostofmuttley on Jan 9, 2022 14:20:08 GMT
Thanks for the vids. Yeah, it's funny how the "conspiracy theory" label just doesn't work anymore in many of the old instances that it did, because they're telling you what they want to do even as the soylent-blue-check-twitter-bots mock you for taking notice of it. You're probably way more up on the hierarchy that me .. all I know, as I've said a few times, is that one aspect of power nowadays is real and impenetrable anonymity, so, if you know someone's name - no matter how wealthy and ostensibly powerful - they likely are at least deferring to, if not answering to someone we don't and probably won't ever know about.Yes, agree. If we see them on the tv, they probably aren't THAT powerful. There are conspiracy folks that explore lineage, ancestry, connections, freemasons, black nobility, knights templar....all that stuff. They probably know most of the names, but I'm mostly in the dark....especially when it comes to Asia, Russia etc. Many of the leaders that are playing prominent roles in all this have ancestry that would be related to the now unfashionable word....'The Illuminati'. Not sure about Biden though. He really could be just a puppet. Joe will be a future historians case study on how America became a victim of her own success. We had many decades that allowed the bulk of the population to optimize their situations so that anyone who wanted to put their heads down, work and raise a family could do that with a decent standard of living and in relative social order and peace. The kids have this meme that "good times make for weak men". That's a bit harsh, but the ring to truth to it is that guys like Joe could become multimillionaires on "government servant" salaries, and noone really noticed much less did anything about it. Joe and thousands like Joe sold out their stewardship to the highest bidders, and the cumulative results of this over the past few decades have led us to the current state of instability. |
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Jan 9, 2022 14:28:13 GMT
Post by ghostofmuttley on Jan 9, 2022 14:28:13 GMT
Mass panic and dread. Get people to shut down anything but the lizard brain. Then we get this violent, fight-or-flight response. Like Rob though, I perceive the potential that not all of the details of the scenario were pre-planned. Unlike Rob, though, I allow for the possibility that people like Macron, Hochul and Morrison (or, more aptly, their puppet masters) acted opportunistically once the trance was in place.
It's an interesting question to me, if you take the higher level above the pols, guys like Gates for example. How much of what they state are their beliefs are what they really believe? To my eye, the pols, guys like Macron and ladies like Hochul, they're at least partially bought-in and tranced.
way I see it, yeah...the likes of Macron are partially bought in and tranced. Personally, I don't necessarily see Gates as 'higher' than them exactly, more just as someone that connects the dots between the countries. I don't feel that Gates really hides his philosophy, nor does Schwab. They believe in their philosophy and are quite proud of it really. But I believe there are levels higher than Schwab too.....names that have been really quite quiet in the last 18 months. The Rockefellers spring to mind. 2 brief videos here, the first is Schwab in 2016...totally open about his vision. The second is a 2 minute clip of the interview between Aaron Russo and Alex Jones in 2007, back when Alex Jones still talked kind of quietly. Aaron Russo was a Hollywood producer, mixing in all the powerful circles.... edit: videos the wrong way round obviously! With regard to the vids, specifically, it's a bitterly wry and amusing point: "chipping" seems so far out to J.Q.Public that of course they dismiss it as a conspiracy theory. Perhaps it would have helped if science fiction had been included as a mandatory part of the curriculum decades ago, because authors have been exploring these ideas since at least the '60's. Orwell and Huxley's predictions for example. Rather chilling. |
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.. that's what she gets for being one of CNN/MSNBC's last 213 viewers ...