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Jan 8, 2022 2:14:22 GMT
Post by ghostofmuttley on Jan 8, 2022 2:14:22 GMT
Mass panic and dread. Get people to shut down anything but the lizard brain. Then we get this violent, fight-or-flight response. Like Rob though, I perceive the potential that not all of the details of the scenario were pre-planned. Unlike Rob, though, I allow for the possibility that people like Macron, Hochul and Morrison (or, more aptly, their puppet masters) acted opportunistically once the trance was in place.
It's an interesting question to me, if you take the higher level above the pols, guys like Gates for example. How much of what they state are their beliefs are what they really believe? To my eye, the pols, guys like Macron and ladies like Hochul, they're at least partially bought-in and tranced.
I agree with that but I also look from an energy perspective. Power and control. Always been there and duality playing out. I sense those saying it’s the end of patriarchal times are correct and this is all happening for us. It has and will always shift. Ah, the patriarchy, that's an interesting topic, would you like to explore it with someone who might challenge some of your perspectives on it? Ever see Revolutionary Road?
Some of the most insightful voices I follow on the topics of the scamdemic, the steal and the "racial reckoning" have some really ugly elements of misogyny and racism. In some instances, these are false flags designed to inflame the extremities, in other instances, they are actual blind spots of people who are quite sane and clear-eyed on other facets of what's happening. Lack of awareness of and attention to the content and dynamic of our own minds during these times of information warfare are perils which can lead us out into a pathless wilderness of confusion, isolation, and lies.
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Jan 8, 2022 2:44:59 GMT
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Post by Esponja on Jan 8, 2022 2:44:59 GMT
I agree with that but I also look from an energy perspective. Power and control. Always been there and duality playing out. I sense those saying it’s the end of patriarchal times are correct and this is all happening for us. It has and will always shift. Ah, the patriarchy, that's an interesting topic, would you like to explore it with someone who might challenge some of your perspectives on it? Ever see Revolutionary Road?
Some of the most insightful voices I follow on the topics of the scamdemic, the steal and the "racial reckoning" have some really ugly elements of misogyny and racism. In some instances, these are false flags designed to inflame the extremities, in other instances, they are actual blind spots of people who are quite sane and clear-eyed on other facets of what's happening. Lack of awareness of and attention to the content and dynamic of our own minds during these times of information warfare are perils which can lead us out into a pathless wilderness of confusion, isolation, and lies.
Never seen Revolutionary Road. The patriarch is just a ‘male’ energy that has dominated the Grand Dream for many years. I see the divine feminine strengthen at this time and it’s reflected. The heart over the head.
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Jan 8, 2022 5:08:10 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2022 5:08:10 GMT
No. He's a politician and even before he was slipping mentally, he wasn't the smartest one in Congress, to put it mildly. I do trust CDC, FDA, and "Big pharma" somewhat, but it's not total, or blind. I know some firsthand about the quality of people working there. I would say beware of black and white thinking. You can have a corporation do big dumb corporate things and employ some of the brightest people in the world doing honest work. I've worked and studied for years in various STEM fields, and I've seen firsthand how it works. So while it is probably impossible to get rid of all "trust" in one's thinking, I'm at least not blindly trusting authority. Can you please explain the science to me of why we are locking the unvac’d out of society in places where there are high vaccination rates? I.e not allowed to attend supermarkets? Also, how the ‘conspiracists’ knew that it was coming. Serious questions here. On the first question, no I can't. I don't support or agree with those actions by politicians. Fortunately most of the USA is not like that, but some left-wing cities are (New York, Boston, etc). I hadn't heard supermarkets; I heard restaurants, gyms, etc. If there is a scientific justification for it, it would be a calculation of various probabilities, to show that going un-vaxxed was similar to, say, drunk driving, in the amount of risk it puts on other people. I don't support the measures, because I doubt the risk is that high. If I saw such calculations, I could change my mind. I can imagine the risk being high enough with a deadlier virus, like something with a 5% mortality rate. On you second point, I'm not impressed. I saw it coming as well. That's what the media, politicians, and the "herd" does. The fact that certain people predicted this relatively obvious thing, does not convince me to listen to their other junk.
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Post by Esponja on Jan 8, 2022 5:18:11 GMT
Can you please explain the science to me of why we are locking the unvac’d out of society in places where there are high vaccination rates? I.e not allowed to attend supermarkets? Also, how the ‘conspiracists’ knew that it was coming. Serious questions here. On the first question, no I can't. I don't support or agree with those actions by politicians. Fortunately most of the USA is not like that, but some left-wing cities are (New York, Boston, etc). I hadn't heard supermarkets; I heard restaurants, gyms, etc. If there is a scientific justification for it, it would be a calculation of various probabilities, to show that going un-vaxxed was similar to, say, drunk driving, in the amount of risk it puts on other people. I don't support the measures, because I doubt the risk is that high. If I saw such calculations, I could change my mind. I can imagine the risk being high enough with a deadlier virus, like something with a 5% mortality rate. On you second point, I'm not impressed. I saw it coming as well. That's what the media, politicians, and the "herd" does. The fact that certain people predicted this relatively obvious thing, does not convince me to listen to their other junk. Am not convinced on it all either. Although everything is possible. I believe more in the energies. The astrology/feng shui stuff. The ins and outs of the story don’t matter so much. That’s why it’s so illogical. I do think it’s a sort of change/awakening which will be a good thing ultimately but when I see people being divided or segregated (states in Australia locking unvax’d down, Lithuania don’t let the unvax’d into supermarkets and there are no doubt many many more crazy stories) I feel an urgency that people push back but I know there’s no controller and all is just happening too. If ever any of us were forced to look at the illusion of control it would be now, for many people in many ways. So many of us are fully vac’d but refusing these ones.
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Jan 8, 2022 9:47:55 GMT
Post by ghostofmuttley on Jan 8, 2022 9:47:55 GMT
What is the rationale for the vaccine mandates? The conclusion that I've come to by considering those questions, is that there is no rational explanation for that policy that is intellectually defensible. My children soon won’t be allowed to play extra-curricula sports so it is hard not to loose patience with people at this stage. Just trusting that it won’t last forever. Yeah, it was pretty clear to me from the start that masking is essentially child abuse, and the entire over-vax kerfuffle caught my attention even years before this. We have a wonderful warrior on this here in the US, a congresswoman from GA, Marjorie Taylor Greene. I don't agree with everything she's sellin', and I can understand how she might get on peoples nerves .. but .. man she draws the haters.
The people who have suffered the most during the pandemic are the young and the very old. The least able to defend themselves in our society. Children of all ages are having their lives literally retarded, all the way up through the college kids. There's an admissions gridlock with a multi-year build up now, you pay 10's of grand to sit in on zoom calls. Rather outrageous. And the competitive kids who want to hone a talent or a sport .. nope, sorry, you get a year stolen, tough luck. And then the old, they have to die alone. It's wrong. It's evil.
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Jan 8, 2022 9:54:57 GMT
Post by ghostofmuttley on Jan 8, 2022 9:54:57 GMT
Mass panic and dread. Get people to shut down anything but the lizard brain. Then we get this violent, fight-or-flight response. Like Rob though, I perceive the potential that not all of the details of the scenario were pre-planned. Unlike Rob, though, I allow for the possibility that people like Macron, Hochul and Morrison (or, more aptly, their puppet masters) acted opportunistically once the trance was in place.
It's an interesting question to me, if you take the higher level above the pols, guys like Gates for example. How much of what they state are their beliefs are what they really believe? To my eye, the pols, guys like Macron and ladies like Hochul, they're at least partially bought-in and tranced.
way I see it, yeah...the likes of Macron are partially bought in and tranced. Personally, I don't necessarily see Gates as 'higher' than them exactly, more just as someone that connects the dots between the countries. I don't feel that Gates really hides his philosophy, nor does Schwab. They believe in their philosophy and are quite proud of it really. But I believe there are levels higher than Schwab too.....names that have been really quite quiet in the last 18 months. The Rockefellers spring to mind. 2 brief videos here, the first is Schwab in 2016...totally open about his vision. The second is a 2 minute clip of the interview between Aaron Russo and Alex Jones in 2007, back when Alex Jones still talked kind of quietly. Aaron Russo was a Hollywood producer, mixing in all the powerful circles.... edit: videos the wrong way round obviously! Thanks for the vids. Yeah, it's funny how the "conspiracy theory" label just doesn't work anymore in many of the old instances that it did, because they're telling you what they want to do even as the soylent-blue-check-twitter-bots mock you for taking notice of it. You're probably way more up on the hierarchy that me .. all I know, as I've said a few times, is that one aspect of power nowadays is real and impenetrable anonymity, so, if you know someone's name - no matter how wealthy and ostensibly powerful - they likely are at least deferring to, if not answering to someone we don't and probably won't ever know about.
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Jan 8, 2022 10:03:01 GMT
Post by ghostofmuttley on Jan 8, 2022 10:03:01 GMT
Ah, the patriarchy, that's an interesting topic, would you like to explore it with someone who might challenge some of your perspectives on it? Ever see Revolutionary Road?
Some of the most insightful voices I follow on the topics of the scamdemic, the steal and the "racial reckoning" have some really ugly elements of misogyny and racism. In some instances, these are false flags designed to inflame the extremities, in other instances, they are actual blind spots of people who are quite sane and clear-eyed on other facets of what's happening. Lack of awareness of and attention to the content and dynamic of our own minds during these times of information warfare are perils which can lead us out into a pathless wilderness of confusion, isolation, and lies.
Never seen Revolutionary Road. The patriarch is just a ‘male’ energy that has dominated the Grand Dream for many years. I see the divine feminine strengthen at this time and it’s reflected. The heart over the head. Well, even that is an interesting idea. Not to say there aren't kernels of truth on which people might base it, but I really don't see the two modalities out of balance. Even in war, the energy isn't really all one gender or the other, and the most nurturing homes are the ones where the couple's energies balance and compliment. Remove either parent and the energy of the home suffers.
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Post by Esponja on Jan 8, 2022 10:12:59 GMT
Never seen Revolutionary Road. The patriarch is just a ‘male’ energy that has dominated the Grand Dream for many years. I see the divine feminine strengthen at this time and it’s reflected. The heart over the head. Well, even that is an interesting idea. Not to say there aren't kernels of truth on which people might base it, but I really don't see the two modalities out of balance. Even in war, the energy isn't really all one gender or the other, and the most nurturing homes are the ones where the couple's energies balance and compliment. Remove either parent and the energy of the home suffers. Totally, they are all ideas. When we look throughout history in the dream, nothing here is new. Different energies clashing. A NEW earth, a better world, a heart based Gvt, all ideas I’m entertaining. I don’t know anything outside of here and now. Not even if my ideas on the vaccine are correct or if I have massive confirmation bias. I’m being lived. Males have feminine energy and males have masculine too so yes balance is always key and I believe the pendalum will swing the other way, but a tsunami could wipe me out tomorrow too🤷🏻♀️.
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Jan 8, 2022 10:26:09 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2022 10:26:09 GMT
I don't know "why" things happen the way they do. But here we are. What is the rationale for the vaccine mandates? The conclusion that I've come to by considering those questions, is that there is no rational explanation for that policy that is intellectually defensible. Alito is a little pussy, huh? 'If we rule against the mandate are you going to say that the Court is killing people?' or what about Gorsuck... who literally said the flu kills "hundreds of thousands of people a year" (when its actually 36k on average) this is what happens when one gets their information from Fox n all... a mind corrupted by lies, hyperbole, exaggerations and non-literal commentaries
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Jan 8, 2022 10:53:31 GMT
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Post by Esponja on Jan 8, 2022 10:53:31 GMT
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