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Jan 7, 2022 21:01:03 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 21:01:03 GMT
How dare you accuse me of trusting Biden.  Never have I been so insulted. You don't? No. He's a politician and even before he was slipping mentally, he wasn't the smartest one in Congress, to put it mildly. I do trust CDC, FDA, and "Big pharma" somewhat, but it's not total, or blind. I know some firsthand about the quality of people working there. I would say beware of black and white thinking. You can have a corporation do big dumb corporate things and employ some of the brightest people in the world doing honest work. I've worked and studied for years in various STEM fields, and I've seen firsthand how it works. So while it is probably impossible to get rid of all "trust" in one's thinking, I'm at least not blindly trusting authority. |
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Jan 7, 2022 21:08:53 GMT
Post by Figgles on Jan 7, 2022 21:08:53 GMT
No. He's a politician and even before he was slipping mentally, he wasn't the smartest one in Congress, to put it mildly. I do trust CDC, FDA, and "Big pharma" somewhat, but it's not total, or blind. I know some firsthand about the quality of people working there. I would say beware of black and white thinking. You can have a corporation do big dumb corporate things and employ some of the brightest people in the world doing honest work. I've worked and studied for years in various STEM fields, and I've seen firsthand how it works. So while it is probably impossible to get rid of all "trust" in one's thinking, I'm at least not blindly trusting authority. Agreed, but also beware of failing to call a spade a spade out of fear of falling into black/white thinking. |
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Jan 7, 2022 21:20:12 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 21:20:12 GMT
How dare you accuse me of trusting Biden.  Never have I been so insulted. You don't? Do you trust [fill in the blank]? What, its an all or nothing proposition? Is there a person or entity whom you trust absolutely, no matter what.. and others that you distrust, no matter what?
Trust, but verify - Russian proverb |
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Jan 7, 2022 21:25:51 GMT
Post by Figgles on Jan 7, 2022 21:25:51 GMT
Do you trust [fill in the blank]? What, its an all or nothing proposition? Is there a person or entity whom you trust absolutely, no matter what.. and others that you distrust, no matter what?
Trust, but verify - Russian proverb Let's just say when it comes to the Covid narrative and those heading it up, I have literally, zero trust that their intentions were ever pure. It's becoming ever more clear, we've been scammed. |
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Post by ghostofmuttley on Jan 7, 2022 23:06:24 GMT
First of all, it's not clear in this fog of information war if it's good even for that. Second of all, that's not what was promised at the outset. Why even call it a vaccine then? It's a prophylactic treatment. And if that's the new narrative, it raises the following questions (for just a start): (1) Why bar the unvaccinated from stores or work or school if the vax'd are just as likely to transmit it?
(2) Why force a prophylactic treatment on the entire population for a disease that has far greater than a 99.7% survival rate among everyone except a few vulnerable groups? (3) Why suppress the distribution of known, effective generic antivirals? Those are treatments as well, because that's all a "vaccine" that doesn't prevent infection is: a treatment.
I don't know "why" things happen the way they do. But here we are. What is the rationale for the vaccine mandates? The conclusion that I've come to by considering those questions, is that there is no rational explanation for that policy that is intellectually defensible. |
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Post by Esponja on Jan 7, 2022 23:31:54 GMT
No. He's a politician and even before he was slipping mentally, he wasn't the smartest one in Congress, to put it mildly. I do trust CDC, FDA, and "Big pharma" somewhat, but it's not total, or blind. I know some firsthand about the quality of people working there. I would say beware of black and white thinking. You can have a corporation do big dumb corporate things and employ some of the brightest people in the world doing honest work. I've worked and studied for years in various STEM fields, and I've seen firsthand how it works. So while it is probably impossible to get rid of all "trust" in one's thinking, I'm at least not blindly trusting authority. Can you please explain the science to me of why we are locking the unvac’d out of society in places where there are high vaccination rates? I.e not allowed to attend supermarkets? Also, how the ‘conspiracists’ knew that it was coming. Serious questions here. |
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Jan 7, 2022 23:47:06 GMT
Post by ghostofmuttley on Jan 7, 2022 23:47:06 GMT
First of all, it's not clear in this fog of information war if it's good even for that. Second of all, that's not what was promised at the outset. Why even call it a vaccine then? It's a prophylactic treatment. And if that's the new narrative, it raises the following questions (for just a start):
(1) Why bar the unvaccinated from stores or work or school if the vax'd are just as likely to transmit it?
(2) Why force a prophylactic treatment on the entire population for a disease that has far greater than a 99.7% survival rate among everyone except a few vulnerable groups?
(3) Why suppress the distribution of known, effective generic antivirals? Those are treatments as well, because that's all a "vaccine" that doesn't prevent infection is: a treatment.
And when you get to rates as promised of 90% vac’d, why lock the unvac’d out? We’ve never done that in society before. Mass panic and dread. Get people to shut down anything but the lizard brain. Then we get this violent, fight-or-flight response. Like Rob though, I perceive the potential that not all of the details of the scenario were pre-planned. Unlike Rob, though, I allow for the possibility that people like Macron, Hochul and Morrison (or, more aptly, their puppet masters) acted opportunistically once the trance was in place.
It's an interesting question to me, if you take the higher level above the pols, guys like Gates for example. How much of what they state are their beliefs are what they really believe? To my eye, the pols, guys like Macron and ladies like Hochul, they're at least partially bought-in and tranced.
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Jan 8, 2022 0:20:44 GMT
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Post by Esponja on Jan 8, 2022 0:20:44 GMT
And when you get to rates as promised of 90% vac’d, why lock the unvac’d out? We’ve never done that in society before. Mass panic and dread. Get people to shut down anything but the lizard brain. Then we get this violent, fight-or-flight response. Like Rob though, I perceive the potential that not all of the details of the scenario were pre-planned. Unlike Rob, though, I allow for the possibility that people like Macron, Hochul and Morrison (or, more aptly, their puppet masters) acted opportunistically once the trance was in place.
It's an interesting question to me, if you take the higher level above the pols, guys like Gates for example. How much of what they state are their beliefs are what they really believe? To my eye, the pols, guys like Macron and ladies like Hochul, they're at least partially bought-in and tranced.
I agree with that but I also look from an energy perspective. Power and control. Always been there and duality playing out. I sense those saying it’s the end of patriarchal times are correct and this is all happening for us. It has and will always shift. |
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Post by Esponja on Jan 8, 2022 0:24:19 GMT
I don't know "why" things happen the way they do. But here we are. What is the rationale for the vaccine mandates? The conclusion that I've come to by considering those questions, is that there is no rational explanation for that policy that is intellectually defensible. My children soon won’t be allowed to play extra-curricula sports so it is hard not to loose patience with people at this stage. Just trusting that it won’t last forever. |
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Jan 8, 2022 0:31:59 GMT
Post by Andrew on Jan 8, 2022 0:31:59 GMT
And when you get to rates as promised of 90% vac’d, why lock the unvac’d out? We’ve never done that in society before. Mass panic and dread. Get people to shut down anything but the lizard brain. Then we get this violent, fight-or-flight response. Like Rob though, I perceive the potential that not all of the details of the scenario were pre-planned. Unlike Rob, though, I allow for the possibility that people like Macron, Hochul and Morrison (or, more aptly, their puppet masters) acted opportunistically once the trance was in place.
It's an interesting question to me, if you take the higher level above the pols, guys like Gates for example. How much of what they state are their beliefs are what they really believe? To my eye, the pols, guys like Macron and ladies like Hochul, they're at least partially bought-in and tranced.
way I see it, yeah...the likes of Macron are partially bought in and tranced. Personally, I don't necessarily see Gates as 'higher' than them exactly, more just as someone that connects the dots between the countries. I don't feel that Gates really hides his philosophy, nor does Schwab. They believe in their philosophy and are quite proud of it really. But I believe there are levels higher than Schwab too.....names that have been really quite quiet in the last 18 months. The Rockefellers spring to mind. 2 brief videos here, the first is Schwab in 2016...totally open about his vision. The second is a 2 minute clip of the interview between Aaron Russo and Alex Jones in 2007, back when Alex Jones still talked kind of quietly. Aaron Russo was a Hollywood producer, mixing in all the powerful circles.... edit: videos the wrong way round obviously! |
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Never have I been so insulted. 
Never have I been so insulted. 
