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Post by muttley on Dec 17, 2019 17:48:08 GMT
Limitlessness is an absence of any such boundary that can define the dichotomy of inner/outer. There is no "Infinite" in the way you're conceiving it. " Within the Infinite" is a mind-created delusion. Of course...but what is it that's Aware of "Within the Infinite" is a mind-created delusion"? Is it a mind-created delusion? In other words are you in front of the lens of perception or are you behind it? Or are you both? The "lens of perception" has nothing to do with "what I am", nor does any other object that can appear. This, is self-inquiry. Noone can tell you an answer that you have to discover for yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2019 17:59:07 GMT
Of course...but what is it that's Aware of "Within the Infinite" is a mind-created delusion"? Is it a mind-created delusion? In other words are you in front of the lens of perception or are you behind it? Or are you both? The "lens of perception" has nothing to do with "what I am", nor does any other object that can appear. This, is self-inquiry. Noone can tell you an answer that you have to discover for yourself. Yes, it is self-inquiry. And what we have in this forum is a powerful force residing in 'personhood' that is resisting that discovery at all costs. In other words we have a group of 'persons' that want to taste the Honey, but they don't want to BE the Honey...
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Post by muttley on Dec 17, 2019 18:05:07 GMT
The "lens of perception" has nothing to do with "what I am", nor does any other object that can appear. This, is self-inquiry. Noone can tell you an answer that you have to discover for yourself. Yes, it is self-inquiry. And what we have in this forum is a powerful force residing in 'personhood' that is resisting that discovery at all costs. In other words we have a group of 'persons' that want to taste the Honey, but they don't want to BE the Honey... One disagreement that I have with almost every one of them, to one degree or another, is exactly this sort of black/white, on/off, "you are or you're not" opinion of one another. The existential truth is simplicity incarnate. The ten gazillion thingies, not so much. The appearance of the imagery of the person will continue for as long as the body draws breath. There are many potential realizations, many potential insights, many potentially enlightening experiences.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2019 18:15:19 GMT
Yes, it is self-inquiry. And what we have in this forum is a powerful force residing in 'personhood' that is resisting that discovery at all costs. In other words we have a group of 'persons' that want to taste the Honey, but they don't want to BE the Honey... One disagreement that I have with almost every one of them, to one degree or another, is exactly this sort of black/white, on/off, "you are or you're not" opinion of one another. The existential truth is simplicity incarnate. The ten gazillion thingies, not so much. The appearance of the imagery of the person will continue for as long as the body draws breath. There are many potential realizations, many potential insights, many potentially enlightening experiences. Who is saying that those experiences will disappear? That's just more of the minds resistance. That which is Aware of the minds imaginary loss, can that one disappear, or can it be lost?
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Post by muttley on Dec 17, 2019 18:19:49 GMT
One disagreement that I have with almost every one of them, to one degree or another, is exactly this sort of black/white, on/off, "you are or you're not" opinion of one another. The existential truth is simplicity incarnate. The ten gazillion thingies, not so much. The appearance of the imagery of the person will continue for as long as the body draws breath. There are many potential realizations, many potential insights, many potentially enlightening experiences. Who is saying that those experiences will disappear? That's just more of the minds resistance. That which is Aware of the minds imaginary loss, can that one disappear, or can it be lost? Anything and everything that appears will eventually disappear. The only constant in life is change. There is complete certainty that the body will eventually disappear. More self-inquiry.
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Post by Figgles on Dec 17, 2019 18:28:29 GMT
The "lens of perception" has nothing to do with "what I am", nor does any other object that can appear. This, is self-inquiry. Noone can tell you an answer that you have to discover for yourself. Yes, it is self-inquiry. And what we have in this forum is a powerful force residing in 'personhood' that is resisting that discovery at all costs. In other words we have a group of 'persons' that want to taste the Honey, but they don't want to BE the Honey... It's not about what you want to be. It's all about what you actually ARE. (Hint: It's not a what!)All whatness is just an appearance. You are that which lies fundamental to all appearances. That which lies fundamental never becomes that which appears. To do so would mean that limitation, separation is actual.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 0:15:42 GMT
Really? Butthurt? In your dreams. I sense most folks here understood what you were up to before you even realized what you had gotten yourself into. I mean, really... what did you accomplish? Walking around for a week with your superficial glossary of terminology at the ready. What a dork! Even the stoics knew: "what other people think of me is none of my business". My guess is he's not drinking enough water.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 0:24:38 GMT
It can't be determined philosophically, that's for sure. I'm just taking a walk around the lake. Hearing sounds, feeling movement, smelling smells, tasting cool airs on the tongue, touching the face of something I can't really know. No apologies. I was just being silly, as usual. I was simply engaging with a poetic, free-floating hostility.
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Post by Enigma on Dec 19, 2019 15:55:59 GMT
The minds projection of the Spiritual Concept of an 'Infinite state', is 'appearing' in the Infinite... Limitlessness is an absence of any such boundary that can define the dichotomy of inner/outer. There is no "Infinite" in the way you're conceiving it. " Within the Infinite" is a mind-created delusion. But what if we said 'within Mr, Infinite'?
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Post by muttley on Dec 19, 2019 16:52:21 GMT
Limitlessness is an absence of any such boundary that can define the dichotomy of inner/outer. There is no "Infinite" in the way you're conceiving it. " Within the Infinite" is a mind-created delusion. But what if we said 'within Mr, Infinite'? Would that be like, an "appearance within Mr. Testicles"??
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