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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 18:18:05 GMT
You are looking at the orange, Orange is your appearance, you can't know anything beyond the appearance of apple indeed. I know the orange seems to be outside and the taste seems to be inside. Where is the orange when you are looking at it? Are you looking at the image of Orange or the Orange which exist outside(Let's assume if you believe outer universe exist)
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Post by Andrew on May 5, 2017 18:28:33 GMT
I know the orange seems to be outside and the taste seems to be inside. Where is the orange when you are looking at it? Are you looking at the image of Orange or the Orange which exist outside(Let's assume if you believe outer universe exist) In my case, I usually experience looking at the orange on a shelf in the supermarket, then in a shopping basket, then in a fruit bowl in a house. Would be kinda nice to have an orange tree in the garden though.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 18:30:10 GMT
Where is the orange when you are looking at it? Are you looking at the image of Orange or the Orange which exist outside(Let's assume if you believe outer universe exist) In my case, I usually experience looking at the orange on a shelf in the supermarket, then in a shopping basket, then in a fruit bowl in a house. Would be kinda nice to have an orange tree in the garden though. Are you looking at the image of the orange or the original orange which is the table? (Let's assume outer world is real)
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Post by Andrew on May 5, 2017 18:58:08 GMT
In my case, I usually experience looking at the orange on a shelf in the supermarket, then in a shopping basket, then in a fruit bowl in a house. Would be kinda nice to have an orange tree in the garden though. Are you looking at the image of the orange or the original orange which is the table? (Let's assume outer world is real) If we assume the outer world is real, then biologically there is something perceived that the brain converts into the image of an orange on the table.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 19:24:20 GMT
Are you looking at the image of the orange or the original orange which is the table? (Let's assume outer world is real) If we assume the outer world is real, then biologically there is something perceived that the brain converts into the image of an orange on the table. Assume outer world is real, are you looking at the image of orange or real orange? Which orange are you looking at?
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Post by Andrew on May 5, 2017 19:47:36 GMT
If we assume the outer world is real, then biologically there is something perceived that the brain converts into the image of an orange on the table. Assume outer world is real, are you looking at the image of orange or real orange? Which orange are you looking at? It depends what you mean by 'real orange'. The brain produces the image, but if we assume a real world, there is still 'something' being perceived that has a different signature or property or quality to an 'apple'.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 19:50:45 GMT
Assume outer world is real, are you looking at the image of orange or real orange? Which orange are you looking at? It depends what you mean by 'real orange'. The brain produces the image, but if we assume a real world, there is still 'something' being perceived that has a different signature or property or quality to an 'apple'. So you are seeing that image which is produced by the Brain, right ?
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 19:57:58 GMT
Assume outer world is real, are you looking at the image of orange or real orange? Which orange are you looking at? It depends what you mean by 'real orange'. The brain produces the image, but if we assume a real world, there is still 'something' being perceived that has a different signature or property or quality to an 'apple'. Hey Andrew , I just opened ST forum today, I noticed that teachers of the ST forum has nobody to teach, I noticed that you and Tenka,source are seems to be showing kindness to the teachers of the ST forum, Figgles is also not participating, Satch said he is going away but later I saw satch was begging to reefs to allow him inside. Now teachers need students because all of them wants to teach but found no one so arguments are not moving at all, it's reefs effect . When I was there arguments between you and I always moving so teachers of ST forum finds the way to bring there teaching but since I have banned argument between you and I are not there so they are desperately waiting for someone to act as a student.
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Post by Andrew on May 5, 2017 20:13:56 GMT
It depends what you mean by 'real orange'. The brain produces the image, but if we assume a real world, there is still 'something' being perceived that has a different signature or property or quality to an 'apple'. So you are seeing that image which is produced by the Brain, right ? Yes, though the formation of the image is based on what is perceived 'out there'.
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Post by Andrew on May 5, 2017 20:17:02 GMT
It depends what you mean by 'real orange'. The brain produces the image, but if we assume a real world, there is still 'something' being perceived that has a different signature or property or quality to an 'apple'. Hey Andrew , I just opened ST forum today, I noticed that teachers of the ST forum has nobody to teach, I noticed that you and Tenka,source are seems to be showing kindness to the teachers of the ST forum, Figgles is also not participating, Satch said he is going away but later I saw satch was begging to reefs to allow him inside. Now teachers need students because all of them wants to teach but found no one so arguments are not moving at all, it's reefs effect . When I was there arguments between you and I always moving so teachers of ST forum finds the way to bring there teaching but since I have banned argument between you and I are not there so they are desperately waiting for someone to act as a student. Yeah the dynamic and energy is different...time will tell what happens.
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