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Post by Figgles on May 4, 2017 15:40:58 GMT
 (I will look into this..see if there's something amiss...the inability to quote thingy) Seems to me working okay now, maybe I was just having a semi senior moment the other day! Good to hear! (Well, maybe not about the senior moment...hehe  ) |
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Post by Figgles on May 4, 2017 16:15:00 GMT
....Dare we say........ Love? I think we should dare! "Dare" is really the perfect word too....for those who are stuck in a sterile, nondualistic pov, that is still not full integrated, it does require a sort of 'leap of faith,' to engage with the idea that Love is the Source of all...it can feel at first as though one is turning their back on Truth itself, as it involves a shift in focus from emptiness to fullness. Jed McKenna comes to mind as one who is hesitant to let go of Truth, to move into Love. Some of his latest books though, imo, do show a softening.....he sometimes edges closer to Love than I ever would have thought in the earlier books which were minutely focused upon 'cold hard, unrelenting Truth' period. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 16:42:17 GMT
"Dare" is really the perfect word too....for those who are stuck in a sterile, nondualistic pov, that is still not full integrated, it does require a sort of 'leap of faith,' to engage with the idea that Love is the Source of all...it can feel at first as though one is turning their back on Truth itself, as it involves a shift in focus from emptiness to fullness. Jed McKenna comes to mind as one who is hesitant to let go of Truth, to move into Love. Some of his latest books though, imo, do show a softening.....he sometimes edges closer to Love than I ever would have thought in the earlier books which were minutely focused upon 'cold hard, unrelenting Truth' period. A friend of mine told me to ask this question each and every day in a state of openness- What can love do? Then, to be aware of being aware throughout the day. Sometimes unexpected things happen. |
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Post by Andrew on May 4, 2017 16:54:56 GMT
"Dare" is really the perfect word too....for those who are stuck in a sterile, nondualistic pov, that is still not full integrated, it does require a sort of 'leap of faith,' to engage with the idea that Love is the Source of all...it can feel at first as though one is turning their back on Truth itself, as it involves a shift in focus from emptiness to fullness. Jed McKenna comes to mind as one who is hesitant to let go of Truth, to move into Love. Some of his latest books though, imo, do show a softening.....he sometimes edges closer to Love than I ever would have thought in the earlier books which were minutely focused upon 'cold hard, unrelenting Truth' period. Yeah! It's like a dare to love no matter what, to love wildly, unhindered, freely, without burden. Even when a situation could be interpreted to be very dire, to love freely anyway. Definitely goes beyond ideas, and I agree...beyond 'Truth'. It has been a while since I have thought of Osho, but this was part of his advice to his 'sannyasins'. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 16:53:21 GMT
Inner and outer are arbitrary measurements, so when there is an inner, there has to be an outer.Why? Reaching what? Reaching Orange? |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 17:02:49 GMT
Yeah, it's a half step to completely letting go and flowing with the guiding of life in total faith. Sent from my SM-T210R using Tapatalk Yes, agreed, but It's also important to note that even in a full on letting go and flowing with the guiding of life, plans will sometimes still get made, and a sense of 'guiding' things might still arise. Orchestration of a plan is not necessarily evidence that one is NOT flowing along with life. You are sitting in a theater watching movie, would you suddenly start to plan to do something with the story? villain is kidnapping the heroine and you suddenly plan to do something to save the heroine? |
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Post by Andrew on May 5, 2017 17:05:30 GMT
Inner and outer are arbitrary measurements, so when there is an inner, there has to be an outer.Why? Reaching what? Reaching Orange? There's no up without down, left without right, in without out. Yes reaching, or taking, an orange off the shelf, or in the fruit bowl or maybe off the tree. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 17:06:44 GMT
"Dare" is really the perfect word too....for those who are stuck in a sterile, nondualistic pov, that is still not full integrated, it does require a sort of 'leap of faith,' to engage with the idea that Love is the Source of all...it can feel at first as though one is turning their back on Truth itself, as it involves a shift in focus from emptiness to fullness. Jed McKenna comes to mind as one who is hesitant to let go of Truth, to move into Love. Some of his latest books though, imo, do show a softening.....he sometimes edges closer to Love than I ever would have thought in the earlier books which were minutely focused upon 'cold hard, unrelenting Truth' period. A friend of mine told me to ask this question each and every day in a state of openness- What can love do? Then, to be aware of being aware throughout the day. Sometimes unexpected things happen. If there is such a thing called 'love' then that has to move without your effort because you are sitting in a theater and watching a movie. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 17:08:01 GMT
Why? Reaching what? Reaching Orange? There's no up without down, left without right, in without out. Yes reaching, or taking, an orange off the shelf, or in the fruit bowl or maybe off the tree. You are looking at the orange, Orange is your appearance, you can't know anything beyond the appearance of apple indeed. |
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Post by Andrew on May 5, 2017 17:56:27 GMT
There's no up without down, left without right, in without out. Yes reaching, or taking, an orange off the shelf, or in the fruit bowl or maybe off the tree. You are looking at the orange, Orange is your appearance, you can't know anything beyond the appearance of apple indeed. I know the orange seems to be outside and the taste seems to be inside. |
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