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Post by Figgles on Nov 23, 2019 16:51:10 GMT
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Post by Figgles on Nov 28, 2019 2:18:19 GMT
Why is it Satchi, that after reading what Roy had to say, your mind jumped to the idea that 'all arisings being Maya...fundamentally transient and unsubstantial' somehow equaled the suggestion that those arisings should be 'gotten rid of'?
This erroneous conflation of "dreamstuff" with "that which does not matter.....is of no importance.....that which should be discarded" plays behind so many stupid conversations that go on here and on ST.
For the umpteenth time: "Transient and absent inherent substance," does not = "lacking all importance.....doesn't matter...to be discarded."
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 4:27:25 GMT
Why is it Satchi, that after reading what Roy had to say, your mind jumped to the idea that 'all arisings being Maya...fundamentally transient and unsubstantial' somehow equaled the suggestion that those arisings should be 'gotten rid of'? This erroneous conflation of "dreamstuff" with "that which does not matter.....is of no importance.....that which should be discarded" plays behind so many stupid conversations that go on here and on ST. For the umpteenth time: "Transient and absent inherent substance," does not = "lacking all importance.....doesn't matter...to be discarded." If you want to clarify things with Roy then you know what to do.
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Post by Enigma on Nov 28, 2019 16:12:40 GMT
Why is it Satchi, that after reading what Roy had to say, your mind jumped to the idea that 'all arisings being Maya...fundamentally transient and unsubstantial' somehow equaled the suggestion that those arisings should be 'gotten rid of'? This erroneous conflation of "dreamstuff" with "that which does not matter.....is of no importance.....that which should be discarded" plays behind so many stupid conversations that go on here and on ST. For the umpteenth time: "Transient and absent inherent substance," does not = "lacking all importance.....doesn't matter...to be discarded." It's not that they don't hear us. The problem is that when you identify yourself as a person in the world, the idea of it all being dreamstuff or lacking inherent substance brings on major existential fear. Ideas of real and unreal, dismissal and meaninglessness natural occur even though it's never actually said.
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Post by Enigma on Nov 28, 2019 16:20:48 GMT
Why is it Satchi, that after reading what Roy had to say, your mind jumped to the idea that 'all arisings being Maya...fundamentally transient and unsubstantial' somehow equaled the suggestion that those arisings should be 'gotten rid of'? This erroneous conflation of "dreamstuff" with "that which does not matter.....is of no importance.....that which should be discarded" plays behind so many stupid conversations that go on here and on ST. For the umpteenth time: "Transient and absent inherent substance," does not = "lacking all importance.....doesn't matter...to be discarded." If you want to clarify things with Roy then you know what to do. What did Roy say that requires clarification?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 16:42:08 GMT
If you want to clarify things with Roy then you know what to do. What did Roy say that requires clarification? Nothing as far as I'm concerned. But if I wanted too I could engage with him on ST where the post originated. Figgles won't do that. I will no longer comment on posts copied from the other forum. She can come and engage there if she wants.
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Post by Enigma on Nov 28, 2019 18:03:05 GMT
What did Roy say that requires clarification? Nothing as far as I'm concerned. But if I wanted too I could engage with him on ST where the post originated. Figgles won't do that. I will no longer comment on posts copied from the other forum. She can come and engage there if she wants.But you know why she doesn't, right? All of us have been banned for speaking our mind over there, and it's not about abusive language or trolling or anything we can do anything about short of keeping our opinions to ourselves. At least you're willing to stop by here now and again to share your own, and it's appreciated, and even though I'm not part of the moderation here, I can confidently say you'll never be banned for speaking your mind.
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Post by Figgles on Nov 29, 2019 1:12:13 GMT
Why is it Satchi, that after reading what Roy had to say, your mind jumped to the idea that 'all arisings being Maya...fundamentally transient and unsubstantial' somehow equaled the suggestion that those arisings should be 'gotten rid of'? This erroneous conflation of "dreamstuff" with "that which does not matter.....is of no importance.....that which should be discarded" plays behind so many stupid conversations that go on here and on ST. For the umpteenth time: "Transient and absent inherent substance," does not = "lacking all importance.....doesn't matter...to be discarded." If you want to clarify things with Roy then you know what to do. Nothing to clear up. From what I saw, Roy did not equate fundamentally transient, lacking in substance with 'worthless.' And that's why it seemed odd that you'd respond to his post by asserting what you did.
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Post by Figgles on Nov 29, 2019 1:13:01 GMT
Why is it Satchi, that after reading what Roy had to say, your mind jumped to the idea that 'all arisings being Maya...fundamentally transient and unsubstantial' somehow equaled the suggestion that those arisings should be 'gotten rid of'? This erroneous conflation of "dreamstuff" with "that which does not matter.....is of no importance.....that which should be discarded" plays behind so many stupid conversations that go on here and on ST. For the umpteenth time: "Transient and absent inherent substance," does not = "lacking all importance.....doesn't matter...to be discarded." It's not that they don't hear us. The problem is that when you identify yourself as a person in the world, the idea of it all being dreamstuff or lacking inherent substance brings on major existential fear. Ideas of real and unreal, dismissal and meaninglessness natural occur even though it's never actually said. Yup.
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Post by Figgles on Nov 29, 2019 1:13:57 GMT
Nothing as far as I'm concerned. But if I wanted too I could engage with him on ST where the post originated. Figgles won't do that. I will no longer comment on posts copied from the other forum. She can come and engage there if she wants.But you know why she doesn't, right? All of us have been banned for speaking our mind over there, and it's not about abusive language or trolling or anything we can do anything about short of keeping our opinions to ourselves. At least you're willing to stop by here now and again to share your own, and it's appreciated, and even though I'm not part of the moderation here, I can confidently say you'll never be banned for speaking your mind. Amen. Well said.
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