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Post by muttley on May 10, 2019 5:55:13 GMT
well, whatever happens, your dialogs with andy and tenka really have nowhere to go, and I don't mean any acrimony in that, nor do I mean to belittle either of them. You've done your best, sir. There's no way to overcome the force of their divine stamping. Yes there is. Just over-stamp all that other ink.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2019 7:57:47 GMT
yes, I got irritated when I read his reply to someNothing. Even Laffy was unhappy about his writing. Yeah, my response to that was sort of knee-jerk. What Andy wrote to Kevin is a great example of how relationships can lead to insensitivity. We sometimes feel justified in being harsh with others because of how we perceive they've treated us in the past, even to the point of not recognizing the hardness of what we say as we're saying it. To my eye, this is an experience that everyone here has had, from both sides of the fence, so we can all learn from it if we're open. .. and that's not to say that harshness is all "bad" all the time, either. Wow, what a hypocrite that would make me. Yeah, exactly.
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Post by Enigma on May 10, 2019 15:37:22 GMT
There's no way to overcome the force of their divine stamping. Yes there is. Just over-stamp all that other ink.
Overstamping, what a radical idea! A supra-Divinity loophole.
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Post by Enigma on May 10, 2019 15:41:02 GMT
Yeah, my response to that was sort of knee-jerk. What Andy wrote to Kevin is a great example of how relationships can lead to insensitivity. We sometimes feel justified in being harsh with others because of how we perceive they've treated us in the past, even to the point of not recognizing the hardness of what we say as we're saying it. To my eye, this is an experience that everyone here has had, from both sides of the fence, so we can all learn from it if we're open. .. and that's not to say that harshness is all "bad" all the time, either. Wow, what a hypocrite that would make me. Yeah, exactly. You guys are making me curious about what Andy said, as I've haven't seen the post.
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Post by Figgles on May 10, 2019 17:08:30 GMT
Yes. But just try calling him on those ideas being false and then suddenly he remembers how much he's said in the past about 'non-abidance in mind,' and then he suddenly starts frantically pointing again... "________________".....'the truth cannot be captured with words,' etc. etc. Bloody cornfusing. I tip-toed around those egos thinking it would buy me a little more time. Perhaps it did, but I'm done tip-toing now. I hear ya!
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Post by Figgles on May 10, 2019 17:17:51 GMT
I tip-toed around those egos thinking it would buy me a little more time. Perhaps it did, but I'm done tip-toing now. well, whatever happens, your dialogs with andy and tenka really have nowhere to go, and I don't mean any acrimony in that, nor do I mean to belittle either of them. You've done your best, sir. That can't actually be known for certain. It's pretty clear to me that E, like myself, does not engage in these conversations about what is Truth/was is not because he is intent upon a certain goal, of convincing the one he is conversing with, but rather, the interest itself (if/when it IS arising) is leading the way, driving the conversation forward. There are times where mind is saying, 'this is utterly futile,' but regardless, the interest continues to arise anyway. Love after all, when it's unbounded, from an outside view, moves mysteriously and at times, unpredictably. Those observing may even call it the opposite of Love.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2019 17:42:09 GMT
You guys are making me curious about what Andy said, as I've haven't seen the post.
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Post by Figgles on May 10, 2019 19:28:15 GMT
You guys are making me curious about what Andy said, as I've haven't seen the post. It involved several posts, but as I went back, intending to quote you the really cheap-shots, I can see that well after he originally posted, he want back and edited out the most ass-holeish parts. He initially suggested that SomeNothing was taking out his grief and his upset over you (his Master) being kicked off the forum, through what Andrew deemed to be snipey posts at himself. He then went on after SomeNothing had shared further about his situation, by suggesting that SomeNothing's grief over his familial situation might be helped with some "EFT," and that if SomeNothing wanted, Andrew could coach him re: this, with some private sessions through PM. It's the same insensitive, disingenuous type of pushing of a practice he kept offering to me, over and over when I shared about the genetic disorder in my family (for ancestral healing) even after I told him I had no interest. The disingenuous offer for EFT, seems to be the bit he has edited out, which tells me he knows how sh*tty it makes him look. andrew Avatar
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Post by muttley on May 11, 2019 2:23:18 GMT
well, whatever happens, your dialogs with andy and tenka really have nowhere to go, and I don't mean any acrimony in that, nor do I mean to belittle either of them. You've done your best, sir. That can't actually be known for certain. It's pretty clear to me that E, like myself, does not engage in these conversations about what is Truth/was is not because he is intent upon a certain goal, of convincing the one he is conversing with, but rather, the interest itself (if/when it IS arising) is leading the way, driving the conversation forward. There are times where mind is saying, 'this is utterly futile,' but regardless, the interest continues to arise anyway. Love after all, when it's unbounded, from an outside view, moves mysteriously and at times, unpredictably. Those observing may even call it the opposite of Love. Oh, you haven't read E's best seller .. "The Power of Futility"? ...
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Post by Enigma on May 11, 2019 5:53:31 GMT
I tip-toed around those egos thinking it would buy me a little more time. Perhaps it did, but I'm done tip-toing now. I hear ya! Perfect. Hehe.
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