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Post by Figgles on Sept 19, 2017 18:37:50 GMT
There's the experience of an entity though, and the arising of caring/mattering, and there's no reason to deny any of that. Yes, but I can't trust those experiences, isn't it? Ignorance raises doubt not denial. Hehe You trust that you are experiencing what you are experiencing.
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Post by Enigma on Sept 19, 2017 18:38:49 GMT
Well, there's no one who knows more about mocking than Phil(enigma)...and his pals Laffy and Reefers at the Spiritual Teachers forum... Mocking from a position of clarity is different than mocking from a position of confusion.
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Post by Enigma on Sept 19, 2017 18:41:35 GMT
There's the experience of an entity though, and the arising of caring/mattering, and there's no reason to deny any of that. Yes, but I can't trust those experiences, isn't it? Ignorance raises doubt not denial. Hehe Why would you need to trust the experience that leads to caring?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 18:53:30 GMT
No, no, no, openness to possibility for who or what? Answering that would mean the end of openness. Right. But there can still be the experience of being bound...and then the cessation of that. Is that so? What exactly is "Life" as you use it there? An entity or determiner of some sort, with wants and desires and the ability to set rules that will be carved in stone? how is it that "life" determines? The kind of life that unfolds will be quite different if conceptual folly is present, vs. if it isn't.....just as the kind of life that unfolds will be different if one identifies with being a physical entity vs. not. No, no, my ignorance of Reality and the inability to perceive it isn't a mistake. Thinking there is an I AM or others that can pursue it is...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 18:56:21 GMT
Yes, but I can't trust those experiences, isn't it? Ignorance raises doubt not denial. Hehe Why would you need to trust the experience that leads to caring? If he was standing on a cliff edge I can guarantee he would trust his experience of what his next step would be and in which direction. There are no brown bears on cliff edges.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 19:01:27 GMT
Why would you need to trust the experience that leads to caring? If he was standing on a cliff edge I can guarantee he would trust his experience of what his next step would be and in which direction. There are no brown bears on cliff edges. I would suggest a death contemplation for you, but clearly it wouldn't matter...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 19:11:31 GMT
If he was standing on a cliff edge I can guarantee he would trust his experience of what his next step would be and in which direction. There are no brown bears on cliff edges. I would suggest a death contemplation for you, but clearly it wouldn't matter... To contemplate death on the edge of a cliff where there might be a sense of danger would be the worst place. Try contemplating death when you are in the safest, happiest and most comfortable situation you can imagine and that you would never want to end.
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Post by Enigma on Sept 19, 2017 20:34:21 GMT
Yes, but I can't trust those experiences, isn't it? Ignorance raises doubt not denial. Hehe You trust that you are experiencing what you are experiencing. You mean that the experience you're having is actually the experience you're having? That sounds reasonable.
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Post by Enigma on Sept 19, 2017 20:39:16 GMT
Why would you need to trust the experience that leads to caring? If he was standing on a cliff edge I can guarantee he would trust his experience of what his next step would be and in which direction. There are no brown bears on cliff edges. Yeah, no non-dual brown bears anyhoo. The non-dual ones all walked off the cliff while chanting 'there is no cliff'.
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Post by Figgles on Sept 20, 2017 1:28:07 GMT
You trust that you are experiencing what you are experiencing. You mean that the experience you're having is actually the experience you're having? That sounds reasonable. Yeah.....crazy, & hard to fathom as it may sound....
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