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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 17:47:41 GMT
Right. So stuff can still matter. Nothing matters because there is no entity which it would matter too.  I was going to disagree with you but it doesn't matter. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 18:37:47 GMT
Nothing matters because there is no entity which it would matter too. I was going to disagree with you but it doesn't matter. Neither would agreeing have mattered...  |
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Post by Enigma on Sept 19, 2017 0:41:31 GMT
The absence of identification with experience and it's content, does not mean that we lose all interest in it. I don't have identification with experience, because I don't know what anything is. Which leaves me knowing only my own existence. Wether there is interest or not in appearances there is only me. Which makes me wonder why you've basically been mocking that idea for weeks. |
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Post by Enigma on Sept 19, 2017 0:43:54 GMT
Right. So stuff can still matter. Nothing matters because there is no entity which it would matter too. But without that logical conclusion, things do matter to you. (Actually, in spite of it) |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 3:31:28 GMT
I was going to disagree with you but it doesn't matter. Neither would agreeing have mattered... Why are you writing this as if it matters? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 4:08:26 GMT
Neither would agreeing have mattered... Why are you writing this as if it matters? No, no, everything in the dream world appears as if it matters, even more so than in the waking state, but it is all a projection of my mind, isn't it? That there is an entity that it matters for is ignorance. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 4:40:44 GMT
Why are you writing this as if it matters? No, no, everything in the dream world appears as if it matters, even more so than in the waking state, but it is all a projection of my mind, isn't it? That there is an entity that it matters for is ignorance. It's true that from the perspective of the unbounded, nothing matters, but you can't play it both ways. When you participate in a discussion you are individuated consciousness as a jiva and you cannot put your view forward as being correct but then dismiss what someone else says because nothing matters. Otherwise all I have to do is to continually dismiss you on the basis that nothing matters and no one is here. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 15:11:55 GMT
No, no, everything in the dream world appears as if it matters, even more so than in the waking state, but it is all a projection of my mind, isn't it? That there is an entity that it matters for is ignorance. It's true that from the perspective of the unbounded, nothing matters, but you can't play it both ways. When you participate in a discussion you are individuated consciousness as a jiva and you cannot put your view forward as being correct but then dismiss what someone else says because nothing matters. Otherwise all I have to do is to continually dismiss you on the basis that nothing matters and no one is here. No, no, no, you don't have control over that which compels the activity of your appearance. The activity reflects that of a sentient being, but the ignorance of sentience doesn't verify sentience. Therefore the activity that all things matter is only an illusion at the level of empty zombie appearances. Hehe |
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Post by Enigma on Sept 19, 2017 15:27:04 GMT
No, no, everything in the dream world appears as if it matters, even more so than in the waking state, but it is all a projection of my mind, isn't it? That there is an entity that it matters for is ignorance. It's true that from the perspective of the unbounded, nothing matters, but you can't play it both ways. When you participate in a discussion you are individuated consciousness as a jiva and you cannot put your view forward as being correct but then dismiss what someone else says because nothing matters. Otherwise all I have to do is to continually dismiss you on the basis that nothing matters and no one is here. It's the inevitable result of a conceptual understanding only. Sometimes referred to as conceptual folly. |
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Post by Figgles on Sept 19, 2017 15:50:35 GMT
The absence of identification with experience and it's content, does not mean that we lose all interest in it. I don't have identification with experience, because I don't know what anything is. Which leaves me knowing only my own existence. Wether there is interest or not in appearances there is only me. Cool. Then, you should also be aware that that absence of knowing translates into an openness to possibility that rather than leaving you steeped in ignorance, as one might wrongly suspect, it leaves you free and unbound. |
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