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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 10:39:30 GMT
Yes, if you know what suffering actually means. When I feel like getting out of the particular situation so hard, I am suffering. Even while I watch some movie, there is a strong willing for certain scenes to pass away, I suffer there. How about if you try to change something but with equanimity and acceptance whatever the outcome. |
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Post by Andrew on Aug 7, 2017 10:41:32 GMT
Okay but practically we also eat, work, wash etc, we are never just watching. I think by 'watching' you might mean 'being in harmony with'...? An absence of resistance. No, you are actually watching your eating,working,washing, you are not doing it. I'm not sure what you mean by 'you are not doing it'. When eating dinner there is an 'involvement' with the eating isn't there'? Yes there is an awareness that eating is happening, but there is also an engaging with the activity. Arms are moving, mouth is chewing, tastes are experienced. |
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Post by Andrew on Aug 7, 2017 10:43:27 GMT
Yes, if you know what suffering actually means. When I feel like getting out of the particular situation so hard, I am suffering. Even while I watch some movie, there is a strong willing for certain scenes to pass away, I suffer there. And do you wish for the suffering itself to pass away in that situation? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 11:12:49 GMT
When I feel like getting out of the particular situation so hard, I am suffering. Even while I watch some movie, there is a strong willing for certain scenes to pass away, I suffer there. How about if you try to change something but with equanimity and acceptance whatever the outcome. Then you are not suffering. But anger is not such an event. Anger is one of the label to suffering. You don't like something to happen so you are reacting towards certain event to change it's outcome. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 11:14:22 GMT
No, you are actually watching your eating,working,washing, you are not doing it. I'm not sure what you mean by 'you are not doing it'. When eating dinner there is an 'involvement' with the eating isn't there'? Yes there is an awareness that eating is happening, but there is also an engaging with the activity. Arms are moving, mouth is chewing, tastes are experienced. Arms are moving is being witnessed by Awareness, mouth is chewing is being witnessed by Awareness, tastes are experienced is being witnessed by Awareness. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 11:16:04 GMT
When I feel like getting out of the particular situation so hard, I am suffering. Even while I watch some movie, there is a strong willing for certain scenes to pass away, I suffer there. And do you wish for the suffering itself to pass away in that situation? That situation is causing the suffering, So it's inherent in me to move away from there. If it's a movie, I can't do anything, so I have the strong desire to move that scene somehow. If it's reality, I might be reactionary to that certain event to change that scenario. |
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Post by Andrew on Aug 7, 2017 11:19:13 GMT
I'm not sure what you mean by 'you are not doing it'. When eating dinner there is an 'involvement' with the eating isn't there'? Yes there is an awareness that eating is happening, but there is also an engaging with the activity. Arms are moving, mouth is chewing, tastes are experienced. Arms are moving is being witnessed by Awareness, mouth is chewing is being witnessed by Awareness, tastes are experienced is being witnessed by Awareness. Yes I understand what you mean by that, but experiencing is 'an involvement'...a 'participating', an 'engaging'. |
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Post by Andrew on Aug 7, 2017 11:20:37 GMT
And do you wish for the suffering itself to pass away in that situation? That situation is causing the suffering, So it's inherent in me to move away from there. If it's a movie, I can't do anything, so I have the strong desire to move that scene somehow. If it's reality, I might be reactionary to that certain event to change that scenario. Right, so movie scene leads to suffering (wanting to move away from it). Do you then want to move away from the wanting to move away from it? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 11:29:53 GMT
Arms are moving is being witnessed by Awareness, mouth is chewing is being witnessed by Awareness, tastes are experienced is being witnessed by Awareness. Yes I understand what you mean by that, but experiencing is 'an involvement'...a 'participating', an 'engaging'. Involvement,Participating,Engaging happens while you perceive! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 11:32:09 GMT
That situation is causing the suffering, So it's inherent in me to move away from there. If it's a movie, I can't do anything, so I have the strong desire to move that scene somehow. If it's reality, I might be reactionary to that certain event to change that scenario. Right, so movie scene leads to suffering (wanting to move away from it). Do you then want to move away from the wanting to move away from it? No, I will experience those movement while I am inside the theater but wanting those scenes to pass away is inherent in me . Once I read that there is a English movie(I know the name but I don't want to reveal here) where people start to walk away from theater while they watch that movie. |
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