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Post by Andrew on Aug 7, 2017 11:51:42 GMT
Yes I understand what you mean by that, but experiencing is 'an involvement'...a 'participating', an 'engaging'. Involvement,Participating,Engaging happens while you perceive! Yes. |
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Post by Andrew on Aug 7, 2017 11:53:22 GMT
Right, so movie scene leads to suffering (wanting to move away from it). Do you then want to move away from the wanting to move away from it? No, I will experience those movement while I am inside the theater but wanting those scenes to pass away is inherent in me . Once I read that there is a English movie(I know the name but I don't want to reveal here) where people start to walk away from theater while they watch that movie. Okay, so your point is perhaps that one who is in witness mode will never perceive anything that will cause him or her to suffer? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 12:00:51 GMT
No, I will experience those movement while I am inside the theater but wanting those scenes to pass away is inherent in me . Once I read that there is a English movie(I know the name but I don't want to reveal here) where people start to walk away from theater while they watch that movie. Okay, so your point is perhaps that one who is in witness mode will never perceive anything that will cause him or her to suffer? Perceiving is creating, My point is, once he realized the nature of his true being as witness, he can't create something which makes him pisses off, Satch goes wrong here. |
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Post by Andrew on Aug 7, 2017 12:10:33 GMT
Okay, so your point is perhaps that one who is in witness mode will never perceive anything that will cause him or her to suffer? Perceiving is creating, My point is, once he realized the nature of his true being as witness, he can't create something which makes him pisses off, Satch goes wrong here. Okay, I can agree with you in theory. But I doubt that there has ever been a human that has truly realized true being as witness then. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 12:21:31 GMT
Okay, so your point is perhaps that one who is in witness mode will never perceive anything that will cause him or her to suffer? Perceiving is creating, My point is, once he realized the nature of his true being as witness, he can't create something which makes him pisses off, Satch goes wrong here. I don't have a choice about what is created. That is the projecting power of Maya. It comes from Brahman. All I have to do to end suffering is to realize I am Brahman. I don't have to change what appears. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 12:51:57 GMT
No, I will experience those movement while I am inside the theater but wanting those scenes to pass away is inherent in me . Once I read that there is a English movie(I know the name but I don't want to reveal here) where people start to walk away from theater while they watch that movie. Okay, so your point is perhaps that one who is in witness mode will never perceive anything that will cause him or her to suffer? Situation will not unfold in such a way that it would cause him suffer. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 12:59:26 GMT
Perceiving is creating, My point is, once he realized the nature of his true being as witness, he can't create something which makes him pisses off, Satch goes wrong here. Okay, I can agree with you in theory. But I doubt that there has ever been a human that has truly realized true being as witness then. Absence of suffering must be the case. We are always watching two dimension movie in theater. But in reality we are watching three dimensional reality actually, Did you watch something which I shared on facebook about Virtual reality 2 days ago? That's perfect example of 3D watch, it feels as if you are experiencing your reality and this vedio is another good example of how world is experienced in consciousness not in outer world. If you haven't seen yet, please see through the given below URL. I will continue our discussion afterwards. ok? www.facebook.com/TechInsiderUK/videos/689383474602375/ |
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Post by Andrew on Aug 7, 2017 13:01:49 GMT
Okay, so your point is perhaps that one who is in witness mode will never perceive anything that will cause him or her to suffer? Situation will not unfold in such a way that it would cause him suffer. Yes I understand your point. The thing is that after there has been a realization of true nature, the situation normally doesn't change. Same situations happen, but the internal response may change. As an example. Many years ago I had a girlfriend that could get very angry with me and it would upset me. But then I had a small realization and the next time she was angry I felt quite distant from the anger, so much so, that I laughed. So in this case, the situation was the same, but the inner response was different. |
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Post by Andrew on Aug 7, 2017 13:02:55 GMT
Okay, I can agree with you in theory. But I doubt that there has ever been a human that has truly realized true being as witness then. Absence of suffering must be the case. We are always watching two dimension movie in theater. But in reality we are watching three dimensional reality actually, Did you watch something which I shared on facebook about Virtual reality 2 days ago? That's perfect example of 3D watch, it feels as if you are experiencing your reality and this vedio is another good example of how world is experienced in consciousness not in outer world. If you haven't seen yet, please see through the given below URL. I will continue our discussion afterwards. ok? www.facebook.com/TechInsiderUK/videos/689383474602375/I'll watch it. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 13:03:26 GMT
Situation will not unfold in such a way that it would cause him suffer. Yes I understand your point. The thing is that after there has been a realization of true nature, the situation normally doesn't change. Same situations happen, but the internal response may change. As an example. Many years ago I had a girlfriend that could get very angry with me and it would upset me. But then I had a small realization and the next time she was angry I felt quite distant from the anger, so much so, that I laughed. So in this case, the situation was the same, but the inner response was different. There is no such distinction exist, there is no inner and outer world are just different perception created by same awareness, so you would surely experience the change in outer world as well. |
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