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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 9:20:50 GMT
You are not resisting the life when you are laughing or in happy or when you are in unhappy, but when you get angry you are in resistance towards life or you want to change the reality, So anger is obviously resistance, so it's not placing you in witnessing mode. On the face of it that seems like a reasonable point when you use anger as an example. But how about if I want to alleviate suffering? That too is resistance to what is.Yes Ofcourse.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 9:31:05 GMT
Every people in this planet has always been in witnessing mode whether they are realizing or not. So the question is not about whether we are really witnessing the life, the question is about whether we are in witnessing mode. Awareness enters into actor mode when it believes itself into one of the character in the game, it just get back to it's witnessing mode once after the realization, So once after the the realization it should not create the reality in such a way that it will perform the actor mode. If it's performing some kind of actor mode, then it still hasn't seen the truth, agree? After SR, one never falls back into believing he is (identifying with/as) a character in the story. Yes, that's automatic, I agree. Agreed Can't agree here, If he witness the story, why does he goes against the flow? This is something pretty important to notice the difference here. You can't be drawn into the story because you are not only watching but creating the story as well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 9:35:15 GMT
You are not resisting the life when you are laughing or in happy or when you are in unhappy, but when you get angry you are in resistance towards life or you want to change the reality, So anger is obviously resistance, so it's not placing you in witnessing mode. Okay, so witnessing mode is the same as absence of resistance mode, and resistance mode comes with anger. What is 'resistance' exactly? When you are sitting in the theater, you are watching the movie, that's witnessing mode. Just watching.
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Post by Andrew on Aug 7, 2017 9:36:38 GMT
Okay, well....can you tell me what you mean by witnessing mode first? What is it? What characterizes it? Okay, Can you please read this one where I explained, If you still can't able to understand please let me know. Every people in this planet has always been in witnessing mode whether they are realizing or not. So the question is not about whether we are really witnessing the life, the question is about whether we are in witnessing mode. Awareness enters into actor mode when it believes itself into one of the character in the game, it just get back to it's witnessing mode once after the realization, So once after the realization it should not create the reality in such a way that it will perform the actor mode. If it's performing some kind of actor mode, then it still hasn't seen the truth, agree? Okay i understand. It is am interesting subject. Let me ask though...if negative feeling such as anger in all its different forms is a sign of resistance and actor mode, do you think there are humans that have existed that never experience any resistance?
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Post by Andrew on Aug 7, 2017 9:40:09 GMT
Okay, so witnessing mode is the same as absence of resistance mode, and resistance mode comes with anger. What is 'resistance' exactly? When you are sitting in the theater, you are watching the movie, that's witnessing mode. Just watching. Okay but practically we also eat, work, wash etc, we are never just watching. I think by 'watching' you might mean 'being in harmony with'...? An absence of resistance.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 9:59:18 GMT
After SR, one never falls back into believing he is (identifying with/as) a character in the story. Yes, that's automatic, I agree. Agreed Can't agree here, If he witness the story, why does he goes against the flow? This is something pretty important to notice the difference here. You can't be drawn into the story because you are not only watching but creating the story as well. Your idea of going against the flow is just a concept based on your own suffering through identifying with the rollercoaster. Change that and the concept of going or not going with the flow becomes meaningless.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 10:22:09 GMT
When you are sitting in the theater, you are watching the movie, that's witnessing mode. Just watching. Okay but practically we also eat, work, wash etc, we are never just watching. I think by 'watching' you might mean 'being in harmony with'...? An absence of resistance. No, you are actually watching your eating,working,washing, you are not doing it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 10:22:49 GMT
Yes, that's automatic, I agree. Agreed Can't agree here, If he witness the story, why does he goes against the flow? This is something pretty important to notice the difference here. You can't be drawn into the story because you are not only watching but creating the story as well. Your idea of going against the flow is just a concept based on your own suffering through identifying with the rollercoaster. Change that and the concept of going or not going with the flow becomes meaningless. Are you agreeing with me that those who identifying themselves to be a witness can't suffer?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 10:29:21 GMT
Your idea of going against the flow is just a concept based on your own suffering through identifying with the rollercoaster. Change that and the concept of going or not going with the flow becomes meaningless. Are you agreeing with me that those who identifying themselves to be a witness can't suffer? Yes, if you know what suffering actually means.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 10:31:38 GMT
Are you agreeing with me that those who identifying themselves to be a witness can't suffer? Yes, if you know what suffering actually means. When I feel like getting out of the particular situation so hard, I am suffering. Even while I watch some movie, there is a strong willing for certain scenes to pass away, I suffer there.
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