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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 14:03:41 GMT
Realizing Awareness as a being or Awareness as a act of perceiving doesn't change anything. Realizing awareness as a witness might change certain thing, but I don't know, people like Satch,ZD tells so! For me, I create something through something else, finding out that something else might lead to the freedom, but nowadays I realized that finding out that something else is what have been putting me into the cage. Would you say that you are a little scared of resisting something, and then something terrific happening as a result? If you move away, then it seems to be reduced but you have created a line now where you would find something terrific soon which you must witness.
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Post by Andrew on Aug 9, 2017 14:17:41 GMT
Well I know what you mean but that's not quite true. Being knows itself through being. There is no 'perceiving' in this state. Knowing is perceiving, acting is being performed. Awareness is knowing in that occasion. I'll change the wording. The only function of be-ing, is to be....and by definition, this is not a doing. This state of be-ing is prior to the act of perceiving/knowing.
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Post by Andrew on Aug 9, 2017 14:18:58 GMT
Well, it seems quite consistent in its plot themes and target audience, I suspect that the scenes will stay similar. So would you be okay not to watch it anymore? No more watching films with disturbing scenes?It's not in my hand. That's fine. But are you okay now with the idea of perhaps not watching these films and TV shows?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 14:19:30 GMT
Knowing is perceiving, acting is being performed. Awareness is knowing in that occasion. I'll change the wording. The only function of be-ing, is to be....and by definition, this is not a doing. This state of be-ing is prior to the act of perceiving/knowing. Changing English words doesn't do any help here. If you say it remain without perception or perceiving, then you need to know, since being is you, you must have been known such a state but you have no way of knowing that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 14:19:45 GMT
That's fine. But are you okay now with the idea of perhaps not watching these films and TV shows? Not in my hand.
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Post by Andrew on Aug 9, 2017 14:21:02 GMT
Would you say that you are a little scared of resisting something, and then something terrific happening as a result? If you move away, then it seems to be reduced but you have created a line now where you would find something terrific soon which you must witness. Right. So are you a little scared of moving away, in case something terrific happens? Are you a bit scared of intense suffering?
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Post by Andrew on Aug 9, 2017 14:22:11 GMT
I'll change the wording. The only function of be-ing, is to be....and by definition, this is not a doing. This state of be-ing is prior to the act of perceiving/knowing. Changing English words doesn't do any help here. If you say it remain without perception or perceiving, then you need to know, since being is you, you must have been known such a state but you have no way of knowing that. You know after when knowing starts to happen. Like when you awake from deep sleep, you know you have been in sleep.
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Post by Andrew on Aug 9, 2017 14:23:00 GMT
That's fine. But are you okay now with the idea of perhaps not watching these films and TV shows? Not in my hand. Yes I know. I'm just asking if that potential is fine with you...? I'm not asking if it is in your hand.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 14:39:01 GMT
Changing English words doesn't do any help here. If you say it remain without perception or perceiving, then you need to know, since being is you, you must have been known such a state but you have no way of knowing that. You know after when knowing starts to happen. Like when you awake from deep sleep, you know you have been in sleep. how do you know you are left with no perception?
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Post by Andrew on Aug 9, 2017 14:42:22 GMT
You know after when knowing starts to happen. Like when you awake from deep sleep, you know you have been in sleep. how do you know you are left with no perception? Because as it returns it becomes clear that it was gone. It is possible to go so deeply into this that one becomes completely non functioning and cannot eat or do anything. This is rare, but most of us have the capacity to enter into it deeply enough to understand that there is a state prior to perception. But, I don't think you are interested which is fine, I am happy to talk with you about what you call 'witness mode' (to me it is a state of 'non-resistance')
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