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Post by Andrew on Aug 9, 2017 13:25:46 GMT
So if some scenes in movies make you suffer, are you okay with not watching any of those movies? Or would you rather have the suffering so that you can watch the movies? You don't have the choice of not watching movies! If you keep skipping or moving away from there, you would be forced to watch some terrific thing. Lol maybe. What we resist, does persist, yes. But I am saying if the universe moves you away, you are happy not to watch game of thrones anymore? |
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Post by Andrew on Aug 9, 2017 13:26:42 GMT
Okay, disidentification with objects is easy for me to relate to. My general difficulty here might be that isn't easy for me to relate to an activity as prior/fundamental. I can relate to an activity as a practice, such as the sort you described, or just something that is happening. If gopal is relating this witness mode to an absence of wanting to change something, then my background describes this as a state of non-resistance. If I have understood right there, I am find to call it witness mode for the sake of the conversation. That's also a point. What you see is what you get, wanting other than what you have would place you away from witnessing mode. Yes |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 13:30:03 GMT
I disagreed. Perceiving is not arising from awareness. Awareness is perceiving itself. We disagree, but I think I can still ask you about the suffering. You don't have any way to know yourself to be a being. You can know anything only when you perceive. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 13:30:38 GMT
You don't have the choice of not watching movies! If you keep skipping or moving away from there, you would be forced to watch some terrific thing. Lol maybe. What we resist, does persist, yes. But I am saying if the universe moves you away, you are happy not to watch game of thrones anymore? No need to, Just story change can do. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 13:32:43 GMT
Yes, heavily. you can't jump out of the Movie, that would lead to avoiding, avoiding would sooner put you into trouble. Okay! So let's say you realize your true nature, and the universe moves you so that you no longer watch game of thrones or movies that have disturbing scenes. Is that okay with you? You are happy to let go of these film/movies? Realizing Awareness as a being or Awareness as a act of perceiving doesn't change anything. Realizing awareness as a witness might change certain thing, but I don't know, people like Satch,ZD tells so! For me, I create something through something else, finding out that something else might lead to the freedom, but nowadays I realized that finding out that something else is what have been putting me into the cage. |
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Post by Andrew on Aug 9, 2017 13:44:37 GMT
Yes, 'awareness' is a doing for you, for me, it is a beingness.We disagree, but I think I can still ask you about the suffering. You don't have any way to know yourself to be a being. You can know anything only when you perceive. Well I know what you mean but that's not quite true. Being knows itself through being. There is no 'perceiving' in this state. |
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Post by Andrew on Aug 9, 2017 13:46:39 GMT
Lol maybe. What we resist, does persist, yes. But I am saying if the universe moves you away, you are happy not to watch game of thrones anymore? No need to, Just story change can do. Well, it seems quite consistent in its plot themes and target audience, I suspect that the scenes will stay similar. So would you be okay not to watch it anymore? No more watching films with disturbing scenes? |
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Post by Andrew on Aug 9, 2017 13:48:25 GMT
Okay! So let's say you realize your true nature, and the universe moves you so that you no longer watch game of thrones or movies that have disturbing scenes. Is that okay with you? You are happy to let go of these film/movies? Realizing Awareness as a being or Awareness as a act of perceiving doesn't change anything. Realizing awareness as a witness might change certain thing, but I don't know, people like Satch,ZD tells so! For me, I create something through something else, finding out that something else might lead to the freedom, but nowadays I realized that finding out that something else is what have been putting me into the cage. Would you say that you are a little scared of resisting something, and then something terrific happening as a result? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 14:02:10 GMT
You don't have any way to know yourself to be a being. You can know anything only when you perceive. Well I know what you mean but that's not quite true. Being knows itself through being. There is no 'perceiving' in this state. Knowing is perceiving, acting is being performed. Awareness is knowing in that occasion. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 14:02:40 GMT
No need to, Just story change can do. Well, it seems quite consistent in its plot themes and target audience, I suspect that the scenes will stay similar. So would you be okay not to watch it anymore? No more watching films with disturbing scenes?It's not in my hand. |
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