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Post by Tenka on Jul 17, 2017 7:47:55 GMT
The way it is, is known by the experience of it . Gravity is the way it is, the sun is hot, that's the way it is . You experience, dreams, gravity, and the heat of the sun, then you either believe the experience or you don't . Either way you will entertain a belief system ... That's how and why you speak of what you believe regarding it's simply the way it is . Long before a smart ape came along with his beliefs about the way it is. Try to percieve how things 'are' existentially, and not how they are in your head.  How do you know that? You said you can't know how the universe works . You still haven't addressed this blatant issue . You drop your phone on the floor . It doesn't float to the ceiling . You perceive what happens . You believe that certain things fall to the floor and some things float . What is so wrong about that . The universal / environmental laws may have always been that way, so what .. |
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Post by Tenka on Jul 17, 2017 8:25:11 GMT
It's the only connection . The connection is based upon the realisation that there can be what you are and no I am . When there is no I am and there is what you are there is the indescribable love / bliss / peace blah blah blah . Tis never the same when there is awareness of I am that is blissful . Can you entertain that I am can be immensely happy and at peace and still be suffering? It's hard to digest butt it's true . You don't have to buy it, I am not a salesman  No, I can't entertain that. I don't have reference. Some peeps need hard evidence to entertain something or other . No problemo . |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 0:15:26 GMT
No, I can't entertain that. I don't have reference. Some peeps need hard evidence to entertain something or other . No problemo . Whether the evidence is hard or not, you don't know what the hell 'you' are. If you can't even know yourself, how can you know anything else? |
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Post by Tenka on Jul 18, 2017 7:24:12 GMT
Some peeps need hard evidence to entertain something or other . No problemo . Whether the evidence is hard or not, you don't know what the hell 'you' are. If you can't even know yourself, how can you know anything else? How can you know what the hell your talking about? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 16:19:46 GMT
Whether the evidence is hard or not, you don't know what the hell 'you' are. If you can't even know yourself, how can you know anything else? How can you know what the hell your talking about? I don't know, that's why I am open to seeking knowing, while you have shut the door on that probability, because you 'believe' you already know. |
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Post by Tenka on Jul 19, 2017 9:11:05 GMT
How can you know what the hell your talking about? I don't know, that's why I am open to seeking knowing, while you have shut the door on that probability, because you 'believe' you already know. Lol, keep telling your self you don't know when you are speaking of how things are . You spoke about reality being prior to being in one's head . How can you know that? It comes from your head knowing doesn't it . The same knowing that you have just said above regarding you don't know . I am kinda feeling a little crazy pointing this out every day .. Is it going in your head knowing what I am pointing out? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 19:46:03 GMT
I don't know, that's why I am open to seeking knowing, while you have shut the door on that probability, because you 'believe' you already know. Lol, keep telling your self you don't know when you are speaking of how things are . You spoke about reality being prior to being in one's head . How can you know that? It comes from your head knowing doesn't it . The same knowing that you have just said above regarding you don't know . I am kinda feeling a little crazy pointing this out every day .. Is it going in your head knowing what I am pointing out? Again, there 'IS' only knowing. But what you think you know(known) is what you think it is because you believe it is. But what you think you know, also isn't what you think it is. You don't know what it is. Got it? You still don't know what you truly are experentially, you only think you do. Can you see the difference? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 19:50:57 GMT
Some peeps need hard evidence to entertain something or other . No problemo . If by hard evidence you mean personal experience which has at least a modicum of relevance in my personal life, then yes, I do. Tenka IS because he thinks he IS, rather then thinking happening because he IS. |
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Post by Tenka on Jul 20, 2017 8:49:17 GMT
Lol, keep telling your self you don't know when you are speaking of how things are . You spoke about reality being prior to being in one's head . How can you know that? It comes from your head knowing doesn't it . The same knowing that you have just said above regarding you don't know . I am kinda feeling a little crazy pointing this out every day .. Is it going in your head knowing what I am pointing out? Again, there 'IS' only knowing. But what you think you know(known) is what you think it is because you believe it is. But what you think you know, also isn't what you think it is. You don't know what it is. Got it? You still don't know what you truly are experentially, you only think you do. Can you see the difference? This is what you think you know about knowing and it's in your head .. Got it? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 18:06:51 GMT
Again, there 'IS' only knowing. But what you think you know(known) is what you think it is because you believe it is. But what you think you know, also isn't what you think it is. You don't know what it is. Got it? You still don't know what you truly are experentially, you only think you do. Can you see the difference? This is what you think you know about knowing and it's in your head .. Got it? Correct, it's psychological activity, as opposed to what's actually happening in this moment. |
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