Remembering and Celebrating Enigma

Tenka: Healing sent. Thought something wasn't quite right for a while now, but it's nice to see peeps seeing peeps as peeps and not something that is likened to a cartoon character.

Reefs;
Thanks for updating us, Gopal!

It makes me a bit sad to see one of my all-time favorite playmates on these forums in that condition.

But going forward, I don’t think there is reason to worry, Gopal.

First of all, it is not helpful to anyone involved. Secondly, that’s not what Enigma/Phil taught us or how he wants us to look at his situation. I'm pretty sure of that. He knows very well what is real and what is false. He knows that we all came here to watch a movie. And so he also knows very well that there will come a time, for all of us, when we just get up and walk out of that movie theater again.

No doubt, Enigma/Phil had a big influence on many of us. Some actually owe their own awakening to his influence. Over the years, he has shaped content, direction and style on this forum significantly. In fact, he was one of the founding members of ‘the club’... without Enigma’s influence, this forum probably wouldn’t be predominantly a non-duality forum today. He’s been literally part of the ST furniture and always will be.

And while he may have rubbed a lot of members the wrong way, always testing the limits with moderators, I never really sensed any maliciousness in what he did. There was always an underlying kindness, a deep sense of caring beneath his tough love approach. He also always managed to slip in a real gem of a post now and then in the midst of the most intense food fights, while fighting against the densest walls of ignorance that were humanly even possible.

So from my end, I have nothing but appreciation for having had the chance to get to know and interact with Enigma/Phil. As Abe used to say, relationships are forever. I will always remember his playful attitude, quirky sense of humor and especially his awesome command of the English language.

Bee well, my friend, in whatever shape of form you choose to be.


Andrew, be so nice and pass this on to Enigma/Phil for me.

May 6, 2019 at 2:36pm @figglesagain said:
Did Enigma get banned?

Reefs:

Yes. Together with Tenka.

2018 Reefs (TO Enigma:)
I asked you several times to stop the giraffing. I've even pointed out specifically what your giraffes are, multiple times. Others have done so as well, multiple times. But you seem to just continue without a care. Are you really that unconscious? Or are you on a mission? Or both? Anyway, we will go with the official program now. Consider this your official warning #1.

These are your options:

1) Come empty: open up to the possibility that you may have misunderstood something or that there's something that you haven't realized yet
2) Agree to disagree: accept that there may be differences in understanding that can't be sorted out right now
3) Walk off the battlefield: move on to a different discussion or stay away from the forum for a while
4) Continue the giraffing and get banned after 3 official warnings


Let me know which option you prefer.


R

Apr 9, 2018 at 6:38pm enigma said:
I have a suspicion that my banning is unavoidable, but for now I've already conceded to not talk to Andy or Reefs, and now I concede to not discuss the points of perception/cc topic. Whether or not I'll be willing to not discuss the next topic I'm asked to avoid remains to be seen.

Okay, you choose option #3. good. I'll have to say more about the avoiding issue later. There are some misunderstandings on both sides that are worth being addressed fully and in public.

I'm going to be upfront here. I don't understand the whole giraffe issue, and repeating over and over that everybody has pointed them out to me and I must be this or that for continuing to giraffe is not helping me. It's going to be the reason for my banning and I'm never going to understand what you're talking about. That whole scenario strikes me as insane.

You should be aware that in my mind I haven't done one blessed thing wrong, so as hard as I try, it seems unlikely that I'll be able to get with the rehab program.

On the issue of avoiding the discussion, I need clarity. Am I to avoid the CC issue, or the subject of points of perception, or all of it including subtopics? I'm not sure what the goal is here.

Reefs:
Okay, now it seems you've changed your mind and are choosing option #4?

Yes, I'm well aware that you consider yourself above reproach and as the authority on all realization related issues. And it is precisely this high opinion of yourself that got you into trouble this time. That's why you can't see the giraffes. It also explains why you didn't choose option #1 or option #2 and are struggling with option #3 right now. So I agree, the way it looks right now, you are heading for a ban. The momentum is just too strong and your opinion of yourself too inflated in order to see WIBIGO.

I'll address the avoiding issue later. That takes a little more time.

Enigma:
I'm not choosing option 4, I'm trying to understand what your issue is.
I originated the giraffe label and I know what it means. It refers to reading things that were never written. It doesn't refer to offering an opinion that differs from what is said. The fact that my opinion disturbs you doesn't make it a giraffe. Refusing to surrender my opinions is also not giraffing.

Reefs:

Check your PM.