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Post by Gopal on May 31, 2022 7:06:58 GMT
What makes you think the you I am referring to is a person? The fact that you are referencing a "You/me" says it all. Ultimately, the dream is arising to no-one/no-thing. All "me/you's" are empty appearances only, arising within non-personal, unbounded, undifferentiated, awareness. Dream is appearing to you. You are the looker.
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Post by Figgles on May 31, 2022 7:07:37 GMT
So there was nothing appearing that looked like a failure to get on with life? Is that the same nothing that appears to be posting these posts under the name figgles? I dunno. You're the one that made the assertion. If there is something appearing that's not "nothing appearing."
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Post by Figgles on May 31, 2022 7:08:46 GMT
The fact that you are referencing a "You/me" says it all. Ultimately, the dream is arising to no-one/no-thing. All "me/you's" are empty appearances only, arising within non-personal, unbounded, undifferentiated, awareness. Dream is appearing to you. You are the looker. "What" is this "You"? The "you/me" are themselves appearances. That which gives rise to appearance, is impersonal. Not a "you/me/I."
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Post by Gopal on May 31, 2022 7:11:55 GMT
Dream is appearing to you. You are the looker. "What" is this "You"? The "you/me" are themselves appearances. That which gives rise to appearance, is impersonal. Not a "you/me/I." Clear word play.
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Post by Figgles on May 31, 2022 7:14:14 GMT
"What" is this "You"? The "you/me" are themselves appearances. That which gives rise to appearance, is impersonal. Not a "you/me/I." Clear word play. It's really not. Where there is truly an absence of identification with any-thing, it's clear there is no "Me/I" at the helm of seeing....no actual 'seer/doer/experiencer/perceiver.' Rather, just seeing, doing, experiencing, perceiving, absent a some-one/some-thing/entity, that is doing it.
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Post by Gopal on May 31, 2022 7:16:23 GMT
It's really not. Where there is truly an absence of identification with any-thing, it's clear there is no "Me/I" at the helm of seeing....no actual 'seer/doer/experiencer/perceiver.' Rather, just seeing, doing, experiencing, perceiving, absent a some-one/some-thing/entity, that is doing it. You would like to express yourself in a different way but you know it's useless.
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Post by Figgles on May 31, 2022 8:04:54 GMT
It's really not. Where there is truly an absence of identification with any-thing, it's clear there is no "Me/I" at the helm of seeing....no actual 'seer/doer/experiencer/perceiver.' Rather, just seeing, doing, experiencing, perceiving, absent a some-one/some-thing/entity, that is doing it. You would like to express yourself in a different way but you know it's useless. Nope. I'm good with the expression as it is.
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Post by Figgles on May 31, 2022 18:30:59 GMT
Exactly. Well said.
Sort of makes you wonder though....why the interest in chewing if there's no flavor?
Those who still go deeply into all that kind of ideation about 'why life unfolds as it does...reincarnation...laws that dictate life tragectory, etc,' who have all sorts of intricate and fancy explanations that they stand by and argue for, have clearly NOT seen through time....which means, separation is still actively in play.
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Post by Figgles on Oct 31, 2023 20:59:25 GMT
"Choosing" an experience, continues on post SR/awakening. What absent though is the sense of being a separate entity/someone/something that is the Actual/fundamental "chooser."
The seeing of "one seamless movement" becomes primary in SR and the experience of "choice happening," becomes secondary....absent is the sense of "being" a separate, volitional creator/catalyzing, entity with the "power to DO."
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Post by Figgles on Oct 31, 2023 21:48:33 GMT
The very acceptance/agreement with the idea of being a powerful, volitional "something/someone" who has control over future outcomes, itself comes part and parcel with a feeling of relief....well being...happiness.
People peeps LOVE this idea. It empowers the person. Nothing inherently wrong with this approach if we're dealing with seekers who have zero sincere interest in Truth.
However, whether or not there IS agreement/acceptance of that idea/belief, is NOT in the hands of a person...even experientially, there will be seekers who can't/won't buy into that idea.
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