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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2022 8:41:22 GMT
Where can I read more on Arjuna? Don't read that shit  But you’ve certainly asked the right person. Laffy knows more Arjuna stories than even Arjuna's wife did |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2022 10:58:33 GMT
Where can I read more on Arjuna? Don't read that shit  Yeah right. Listen to what Krishna is saying. He's the teacher. Arjuna is the student. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2022 11:06:24 GMT
Don't read that shit Yeah right. Listen to what Krishna is saying. He's the teacher. Arjuna is the student. Thanks, I actually didn't know that, I have almost zero interest in spiritual philosophies |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2022 11:40:42 GMT
Yeah right. Listen to what Krishna is saying. He's the teacher. Arjuna is the student. Thanks, I actually didn't know that, I have almost zero interest in spiritual philosophies. Looks like you've come to the right place then. |
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Post by ghostofmuttley on Jan 11, 2022 14:43:51 GMT
technically speaking, you are correct, no doubt. Arjuna sees enemies who are not his enemies. You're right, the story plays that out with familial relations, but the point is, Arjuna can't bring himself to fight people who he loves. The Christian version of Satan has an interpretation which has morality factored out of it: simply, the opponent, simply, the other. So, we could also say, for example, that Arjuna could not find Satan on the battlefield that day.
You'll have to show me the exact translation where Krishna tells Arjuna that he's a "puppet". The moral of the story is that in transcendent terms, the battle has already happened, but in personal, linear time, it is a life or death struggle. This is the true nature of reality. If you dismiss reality as nothing but a dream you are just as lost in the dream as if you think that your dream death is an existential death.
Where can I read more on Arjuna? He's the main character in one of the most widely read Hindu scriptures, The Bhagavad Gita. It might be worth your while if you're interested to do a simple search on the title and pick a version to read online that you like. I might go through this one, as it's presented as a document rather than individual verses. The text starts on page 36. |
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Post by Gopal on Jan 12, 2022 4:37:36 GMT
No, that's not the reason. He denied because all of them who are standing against him were his brothers. Saying 'he sees himself in the other' is completely different from they are his brothers. If they were not his brothers, he would have proceeded the fight so easily.
Nope, that's not true either. Krishna instructed him that all the greatest warriors standing against him were already killed by me and you Arjuna are just a puppet who are going to execute what I have already done.
You always half read the story no matter whether it's bible or Bhagavad Gita and started writing from there. Please don't do. Someone among the crowd like me will find your fault.
technically speaking, you are correct, no doubt. Arjuna sees enemies who are not his enemies. You're right, the story plays that out with familial relations, but the point is, Arjuna can't bring himself to fight people who he loves. The Christian version of Satan has an interpretation which has morality factored out of it: simply, the opponent, simply, the other. So, we could also say, for example, that Arjuna could not find Satan on the battlefield that day.
You'll have to show me the exact translation where Krishna tells Arjuna that he's a "puppet". The moral of the story is that in transcendent terms, the battle has already happened, but in personal, linear time, it is a life or death struggle. This is the true nature of reality. If you dismiss reality as nothing but a dream you are just as lost in the dream as if you think that your dream death is an existential death.
Hi, Its in chapter 11 Chapter 11, Verse 33 Therefore get up and prepare to fight. After conquering your enemies you will enjoy a flourishing kingdom. They are already put to death by My arrangement, and you, O Savyasacin, can be but an instmment in the fight. Chapter 11, Verse 34 The Blessed Lord said: All the great warriors-Drona, Bhisma, Jayadratha, Karna-are already destroyed. Simply fight, and you will vanquish your enemies. |
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Post by ghostofmuttley on Jan 12, 2022 11:10:48 GMT
technically speaking, you are correct, no doubt. Arjuna sees enemies who are not his enemies. You're right, the story plays that out with familial relations, but the point is, Arjuna can't bring himself to fight people who he loves. The Christian version of Satan has an interpretation which has morality factored out of it: simply, the opponent, simply, the other. So, we could also say, for example, that Arjuna could not find Satan on the battlefield that day.
You'll have to show me the exact translation where Krishna tells Arjuna that he's a "puppet". The moral of the story is that in transcendent terms, the battle has already happened, but in personal, linear time, it is a life or death struggle. This is the true nature of reality. If you dismiss reality as nothing but a dream you are just as lost in the dream as if you think that your dream death is an existential death.
Hi, Its in chapter 11 Chapter 11, Verse 33 Therefore get up and prepare to fight. After conquering your enemies you will enjoy a flourishing kingdom. They are already put to death by My arrangement, and you, O Savyasacin, can be but an instmment in the fight. Chapter 11, Verse 34 The Blessed Lord said: All the great warriors-Drona, Bhisma, Jayadratha, Karna-are already destroyed. Simply fight, and you will vanquish your enemies.
Thanks for making the effort!
Notice the difference between "instrument", and "puppet".  Many people falsely believe in free will. Reminding them that this is false can be helpful, but forming an opposite belief that you are a "God-puppet" is just as false. |
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Post by Gopal on Jan 13, 2022 3:52:28 GMT
Hi, Its in chapter 11 Chapter 11, Verse 33 Therefore get up and prepare to fight. After conquering your enemies you will enjoy a flourishing kingdom. They are already put to death by My arrangement, and you, O Savyasacin, can be but an instmment in the fight. Chapter 11, Verse 34 The Blessed Lord said: All the great warriors-Drona, Bhisma, Jayadratha, Karna-are already destroyed. Simply fight, and you will vanquish your enemies.
Thanks for making the effort!
Notice the difference between "instrument", and "puppet". Many people falsely believe in free will. Reminding them that this is false can be helpful, but forming an opposite belief that you are a "God-puppet" is just as false. Did you not read this ? "All the great warriors-Drona, Bhisma, Jayadratha, Karna-are already destroyed" |
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Post by ghostofmuttley on Jan 15, 2022 15:41:46 GMT
Thanks for making the effort!
Notice the difference between "instrument", and "puppet". Many people falsely believe in free will. Reminding them that this is false can be helpful, but forming an opposite belief that you are a "God-puppet" is just as false. Did you not read this ? "All the great warriors-Drona, Bhisma, Jayadratha, Karna-are already destroyed" Sure.  |
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Post by Esponja on Feb 21, 2022 5:23:33 GMT
I liked this. I have personally lost a lot of interest in world events.
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Many people falsely believe in free will. Reminding them that this is false can be helpful, but forming an opposite belief that you are a "God-puppet" is just as false. 
