Post by Figgles on Oct 3, 2022 18:18:56 GMT
yesterday at 9:43am sree said:
Metaphorically speaking, our butts are our minds, where our heads are in. It's all one, as Ramakrishna would say.
There is no getting out. Toughing it out is the only option.
"Bodhiharma facing the wall" is my spiritual practice. It's derived from Krishnamurti's teaching. Stillness. Don't move, he said. Watch every impulse to become like Joe Blow taking his hits in a world where Momo wants to die. Don't do it.
Metaphorically speaking, our butts are our minds, where our heads are in. It's all one, as Ramakrishna would say.
There is no getting out. Toughing it out is the only option.
"Bodhiharma facing the wall" is my spiritual practice. It's derived from Krishnamurti's teaching. Stillness. Don't move, he said. Watch every impulse to become like Joe Blow taking his hits in a world where Momo wants to die. Don't do it.
Farmer:
This is sad you sound defeated and resigned to despair..
This is sad you sound defeated and resigned to despair..
Reefs: Yeah, he regularly talks himself right into despair. And for no reason (he seems to live in relative comfort, as far as I can tell), except for some kind of unhealthy intellectual narcissism. He has turned self-pity into an art. Sure, that's one way to use your mind, but I'd call that using your mind to your disadvantage
Yeah, I hafta agree with both Farmer and Reefs. What Sree is missing is the overlay of mind...of an SVP that he continually applies to experience in general.
He posits the idea of an experienced 'miserable/miserly world,' as though it's an objective fact rather than his own personal judgment.
And then when he gets called on that, he tries to quickly back-peddle....trying to make out that he's simply pointing to the inherent emptiness of the appearing world, which it's so obvious he is not.
Seeing the inherent emptiness of all that appears is a realization and as such, it's devoid of personal judgments...of mental overlays...feelings about it....devoid of personal opinions about it.
But Reefs, Just as realizing the inherent emptiness of it all does not = negative judgments about it all, it also is devoid of positive judgments/favorable sentiments about it all.
While it is true, in awakening, ensuing experience is generally more vibrant...the experience is one of greater aliveness....a sense that it's all humming with the vibration of love...that awareness is pulsating with intelligence within every momentous appearance...all of that can be put down to the informing of mind...the impact upon experience, following Self "realization"...again, "realization" is always a negation...a seeing through...a subtraction of previous knowledge, whereas the impacts upon mind/experience, are the ensuing 'informing' that goes hand in hand with the realized absence of separation.
But yeah, Sree seems not merely very mixed up/deluded, there's a real dishonest ego on display there as well. On one hand he wants to be seen as awake/aware of the inherent emptiness of it all, and, he wants to rant and rave about how shitty the world is....how miserly experience is in general, but then, as I said, when called on that, he goes into denial mode about it....tries to paint himself as simply "beyond it all."
If he was really seeing from "beyond it all," he would not be mistaking the apparent miseries of the world for Absolute Truth. Similarly, it's equally a delusion to be mistaking the sense of vitality/vibrancy/aliveneness that the world of experience takes on post SR, as an absolute Truth.
The absolute Truth is that all that appears is empty of Truth...devoid of inherent existence....that impacts experience in a such a way that it's all experienced as "alive/vibrant/intelligent."
