Post by Figgles on Jul 27, 2022 16:50:12 GMT
Siftingtotruth: See, what happens happens. The idea that there is an "I" capable of directing attention separate from the flow of "happenings" is a mistake. That seeming I is also produced by that very flow. It is not separate from it; the sense that it is a separate 'thing' is much like seeing shapes in the clouds. The tiger in the clouds does not actually cause the gazelle cloud to flee. That is merely a musing, a playful interpretation.
The practice of inquiry APPEARS to be something separate which can "interfere" -- this can only seem to be the case inasmuch as one buys into the idea that there is an "I" that could EVER have done it differently. But there is no such I. There is only the appearance of such an I -- not even that, really. In fact there is only the flow of God-ordained happenings (if we admit that things happen).
There is no ACTUAL choice or decision anywhere in the process. Attention is not actually directed by the mind towards or away from inquiry. That's what the practice of inquiry (or surrender) demonstrate in the end. They are not practices; they are simple FACTS. One "does" them in the same sense, ultimately, that one practices existence. It may not seem so to the seeker, but it is so in truth.
The Self is a perpetual, unbroken flow of inquiry/surrender (i.e. differentiating itself from thought). It has nothing to do with the world. And yet the world supposedly appears. As the Taoists say, the Self, doing nothing, accomplishes all.
The practice of inquiry APPEARS to be something separate which can "interfere" -- this can only seem to be the case inasmuch as one buys into the idea that there is an "I" that could EVER have done it differently. But there is no such I. There is only the appearance of such an I -- not even that, really. In fact there is only the flow of God-ordained happenings (if we admit that things happen).
There is no ACTUAL choice or decision anywhere in the process. Attention is not actually directed by the mind towards or away from inquiry. That's what the practice of inquiry (or surrender) demonstrate in the end. They are not practices; they are simple FACTS. One "does" them in the same sense, ultimately, that one practices existence. It may not seem so to the seeker, but it is so in truth.
The Self is a perpetual, unbroken flow of inquiry/surrender (i.e. differentiating itself from thought). It has nothing to do with the world. And yet the world supposedly appears. As the Taoists say, the Self, doing nothing, accomplishes all.
You're mixing contexts. You're speaking from the absolute context to explain that in the relative, there isn't "actually" any interrupting happening. But in the relative, experientially, from the vantage point of the seeker, there is....the experience of interruption = interruption.
What appears, appears.
You are dismissing the relative...the experiential.
Once I became conscious of it, it stopped.