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Post by Enigma on Jun 27, 2017 23:21:41 GMT
There's a deep cultural meme centered around flying like a bird, Superman, the freedom of flight, and such, so lots of peeps have dreams of flying. If someone has a dream about gravity randomly coming and going and changing, it would usually be called a nightmare. Flapping your arms and flying is freedom. Trees uprooting and buildings flopping over is terror. Your answer is not answering anything! Gravity is not arising our of our desire or belief. That's the way consciousness moves. God is not creating from the present moment because human birth and death is predestined to happen! You asked why it is that we can fly in our dreams if we fear gravity going unstable. I'm saying they are toadally different experiences. |
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Post by Enigma on Jun 27, 2017 23:36:39 GMT
Any chance of you leaving one of these forums alone? I don't understand why this question. On ST, he has been quite belligerent, which has encouraged me to post over here more. Now he's over here doing the same thing. I only suggested that maybe he could not do that on both forums. Maybe if he added a little more bliss to his morning coffee we would all be better off. |
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Post by Enigma on Jun 27, 2017 23:51:18 GMT
That's what I am saying you are saying. It's that way not because you want it that way. It's that way because that is how Life works, not because one of it's manifestations wants it that way. It's tantamount to saying it's the way it is because amoeba want it that way. It's Enigmas conceptual folly when philosophy gets weird.  When you say "that is how life works" you have to assume somebody set things up that way, or everything is just happening by happenstance. Neither of which is any more defensible than what I have said. There is no master designer of the universe, and yet it's true that 'God does not play dice with the universe'. The dream of creation is happening now, and it is God's dream, which he has fallen into and is creating from the inside out. It is a personal dream created impersonally, which means it is created from the desire, fear and wonder of sentience in it's totality. It's not going to adhere to your personal desires, though those desires are not separate from what creation is. |
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Post by gabbynonstop on Jun 28, 2017 0:32:28 GMT
I don't understand why this question. On ST, he has been quite belligerent, which has encouraged me to post over here more. Now he's over here doing the same thing. I only suggested that maybe he could not do that on both forums. Maybe if he added a little more bliss to his morning coffee we would all be better off.  Christians use ego to have others(such as spiritual folk) banned from spiritual websites, by whinging and complaining to the stall holder. Appearing RIGHT has nothing at all to do with ones spirituality BUT everything to do with Religion. Ask yourself, "Are you here to learn or Teach?" When we are challenged we ought to take-it to Heart and then express our response having first taken the time to savor the others output. When one is constantly right, they can fall prey to the quality of being morally right, or justifiable in an effort to seduce who is left. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 1:55:38 GMT
I don't understand why this question. On ST, he has been quite belligerent, which has encouraged me to post over here more. Now he's over here doing the same thing. I only suggested that maybe he could not do that on both forums. Maybe if he added a little more bliss to his morning coffee we would all be better off. It really amuses me that you think I'm belligerent. That tells me something about how your sensitive nature often over compensates with sarcasm in these forums. We Brits are straight from the hip talkers you know. What's fascinating about conversing in a forum is that we only have words on a screen, and from those words we construct an imagined persona. Is it accurate? I doubt it. If we met in the flesh I'm sure it would be like meeting for the first time. You could throw the forum history out of the window. Without the intimacy of body language, voice inflection, subtle nuances of communication which we crudely try to replace in a forum with emojis, there is so much room for misunderstanding particularly in an emotional sense. Add to that the protection of the computer screen acting as a buffer between two peeps conversing, and there might be a tendency to sometimes become combative with words in a way that wouldn't happen face to face because you are sheilded. I can make a provacative statement and immediately walk away from the screen and choose not to deal with the response. You can't do that face to face. It's like a game of chess where the two players might be neutral towards each emotionally, but within the game are fighting to the death and experiencing the full range of human emotions, both positive and negative, but when the game is over they get up and shake hands and go have a beer. So who is Enigma? I have no idea. I see words on a screen consisting of ideas, beliefs and opinions. I react to those. I comment. I have formed an idea about the person behind the words. But that's as far as it goes. I'm straight talking. I try to cut through the BS in spirituality. I'm not concerned about being liked in this forum. I share what I know. I am uninhibited. Sometimes I can be blunt. But belligerent? That's not who I am. And there is certainly none flowing from me to a person in a forum who goes by the forum name of Enigma. |
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Post by gabbynonstop on Jun 28, 2017 2:46:24 GMT
On ST, he has been quite belligerent, which has encouraged me to post over here more. Now he's over here doing the same thing. I only suggested that maybe he could not do that on both forums. Maybe if he added a little more bliss to his morning coffee we would all be better off.
What's fascinating about conversing in a forum is that we only have words on a screen, and from those words we construct an imagined persona. Is it accurate? I doubt it. If we met in the flesh I'm sure it would be like meeting for the first time. You could throw the forum history out of the window. Without the intimacy of body language, voice inflection, subtle nuances of communication which we crudely try to replace in a forum with emojis, there is so much room for misunderstanding particularly in an emotional sense. Add to that the protection of the computer screen acting as a buffer between two peeps conversing, and there might be a tendency to sometimes become combative with words in a way that wouldn't happen face to face because you are sheilded. I can make a provacative statement and immediately walk away from the screen and choose not to deal with the response. You can't do that face to face.
It's like a game of chess where the two players might be neutral towards each emotionally, but within the game are fighting to the death and experiencing the full range of human emotions, both positive and negative, but when the game is over they get up and shake hands and go have a beer.
So who is Enigma? I have no idea. I see words on a screen consisting of ideas, beliefs and opinions. I react to those. I comment. I have formed an idea about the person behind the words. But that's as far as it goes. I'm straight talking. I try to cut through the BS in spirituality. I'm not concerned about being liked in this forum. I share what I know. I am uninhibited. Sometimes I can be blunt. But belligerent? That's not who I am. And there is certainly none flowing from me to a person in a forum who goes by the forum name of Enigma.Post of the morning Satchitananda So NOT threatening, a credit to your presence. Thank you for being here and where ever else you post your messages to hungry ghosts and those others whom are learning about self-trustingness. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 2:58:48 GMT
On ST, he has been quite belligerent, which has encouraged me to post over here more. Now he's over here doing the same thing. I only suggested that maybe he could not do that on both forums. Maybe if he added a little more bliss to his morning coffee we would all be better off. Christians use ego to have others(such as spiritual folk) banned from spiritual websites, by whinging and complaining to the stall holder. Appearing RIGHT has nothing at all to do with ones spirituality BUT everything to do with Religion. Ask yourself, "Are you here to learn or Teach?" When we are challenged we ought to take-it to Heart and then express our response having first taken the time to savor the others output. When one is constantly right, they can fall prey to the quality of being morally right, or justifiable in an effort to seduce who is left.Maybe Enigma is complaining about belligerence to balance out his joy. |
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Post by gabbynonstop on Jun 28, 2017 3:08:57 GMT
THIS activity be ego-drama enigma. Christians use ego to have others(such as spiritual folk) banned from spiritual websites, by whinging and complaining to the stall holder. Appearing RIGHT has nothing at all to do with ones spirituality BUT everything to do with Religion. Ask yourself, "Are you here to learn or Teach?" When we are challenged we ought to take-it to Heart and then express our response having first taken the time to savor the others output. When one is constantly right, they can fall prey to the quality of being morally right, or justifiable in an effort to seduce who is left. Maybe Enigma is complaining about belligerence to balance out his joy? Don't think so source; Enigma contracts when the wallpaper surrounding him begins to shimmer, move about like, threatening to expose the absolute opposite of what his Mind believes. I do hope he doesn't retire to his own website because of Satch... but then, he is married and the best of Life is always had in the Home.  |
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Post by zendancer2 on Jun 28, 2017 3:32:35 GMT
yes love prevails ....... unconditional love ... no attachments.... then there will be no... hate wars.....like the beetles say ...all you need is love
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Post by gabbynonstop on Jun 28, 2017 3:44:20 GMT
yes love prevails ....... unconditional love ... no attachments.... then there will be no... hate wars.....like the beetles say ...all you need is love I not sure if enigma's take on Happiness includes the Beatles. Just in case he happens to stumble upon your Post zendancer, |
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