Post by Figgles on Jul 13, 2021 21:42:46 GMT
Reefs: It's actually fun writing this review. Going thru her book with a fine-tooth comb has been on my to-do-list for a long time because, as you say, there are a lot of things she says that ring true, but some other things she says that are not really adding up. So there's a bit of mystery that is asking to be resolved.
And I read this book more than 20 years ago, shortly after it came out, when I was still a seeker. So I remember it a bit differently. Actually, at that time, having just transitioned from Zen to Advaita, and getting familiar with the concept of no-self, I found her account of no-self slightly appalling, wondering how on earth could anyone want this? That couldn't possibly be the goal, could it? I'm not even sure if I read the entire book, because for a long time, I wasn't aware of her rather late happy ending, when she eventually found peace of mind and her brain tumor also seemed to have escaped my attention. So this is mostly for me to finally sort some things out in regard to Suzanne and her story. And if you guys get something out of this too, all the better!
And there's also always the question, when her name comes up on the forum, if what she experienced was really just some kind of psychological disorder or something more, something that you read about in spiritual books, i.e. a realization of the highest order.
Her views about her 'condition' certainly kept changing over time. In the epilogue it is said that she eventually accepted that a self does exist and yet ultimately doesn't. Apparently, that one year between her book launch and her death, she also spend time cleaning up some long suppressed psychological issues. She was a trained psychotherapist after all.
I think what people may find appealing about her style is that she seems to be free from any kind of belief system or ideology. She doesn't try to sell something. She just presents the raw data, with the bare minimum of interpretation or spin on her part, mostly just for context. And she doesn't really use any specialized vocabulary, so it's easy to read and easy to understand.
The book is definitely a classic by now!
And I read this book more than 20 years ago, shortly after it came out, when I was still a seeker. So I remember it a bit differently. Actually, at that time, having just transitioned from Zen to Advaita, and getting familiar with the concept of no-self, I found her account of no-self slightly appalling, wondering how on earth could anyone want this? That couldn't possibly be the goal, could it? I'm not even sure if I read the entire book, because for a long time, I wasn't aware of her rather late happy ending, when she eventually found peace of mind and her brain tumor also seemed to have escaped my attention. So this is mostly for me to finally sort some things out in regard to Suzanne and her story. And if you guys get something out of this too, all the better!
And there's also always the question, when her name comes up on the forum, if what she experienced was really just some kind of psychological disorder or something more, something that you read about in spiritual books, i.e. a realization of the highest order.
Her views about her 'condition' certainly kept changing over time. In the epilogue it is said that she eventually accepted that a self does exist and yet ultimately doesn't. Apparently, that one year between her book launch and her death, she also spend time cleaning up some long suppressed psychological issues. She was a trained psychotherapist after all.
I think what people may find appealing about her style is that she seems to be free from any kind of belief system or ideology. She doesn't try to sell something. She just presents the raw data, with the bare minimum of interpretation or spin on her part, mostly just for context. And she doesn't really use any specialized vocabulary, so it's easy to read and easy to understand.
The book is definitely a classic by now!
What really is the value for a seeker of reading about/dissecting the story/path of another? As I see it, the stories/experiences surrounding liberation, ultimately have nothing to do with the actuality of liberation/freedom.
Stories and experiences serve as mind-hooks for the seeker..if anything, sharing and spending time talking about these kinds of stories have no value beyond entertainment and in many cases, such emphasis just gives the seeking mind yet one more thing to seek for.
Segal's story is predominantly "a story" about her path to a state of deep confusion and fear. Contrast that with the writings of Niz...Ramana, etc,.....while they are not completely devoid of 'lead up' story, they are predominantly about "Being awake."
The telling and re-telling of stories only serves to further anchor in, the story character.
It's interested how vastly your own focus/interest has seemingly shifted from the Reefs of yesteryear. Any explanation for that?