Enigma
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Post by Enigma on Sept 22, 2017 16:46:28 GMT
If you are able to understand English, then you will come miraculously start to understand that what think I talk is not what I am talking. Lovely irony in this sentence he he. Very often, what he talks is not what he's thinking.  |
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Enigma
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Post by Enigma on Sept 22, 2017 16:48:02 GMT
What I really meant to say is you do not seem empty to me. How do you know? I mean, what do you imagine he would be like if he seemed empty? Puleeeeeze! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 19:50:52 GMT
There is nothing more entertaining to watch than two solipsist's engaged in a discussion about the experience of each other's appearance... Hehe  Just for a change, try to understand the meaning of Solipsism. Your disapproval doesn't mean you understand Solipsism. It just means you are purposely trying not to understand Solipsism, isn't it...  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 19:54:37 GMT
There is a fine line between illusion and perception which Enigma and Gopal cannot discern because they aren't sentient. Oh is it Dude? Oh is it what? Tell me what you aware of?  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 19:59:50 GMT
Gopal just doesn't want to be seen as an empty zombie appearance. He is trying very hard to convince me that he is a point of perception. If you are able to understand English, then you will come miraculously start to understand that what think I talk is not what I am talking. I think I need an English translator... |
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Andrew
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Post by Andrew on Sept 22, 2017 20:11:01 GMT
Precisely that. Why would Gopal think it is possible for you to know for sure that he is a slave to truth. It was Gopal's idea of a joke.  Yes, but there is an interesting component to the joke, in that it is based on the idea that one could know for sure, something about another. |
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Post by Andrew on Sept 22, 2017 20:16:20 GMT
You said the idea of spirit bodies is delusional. I said the idea of spirit bodies comes from your delusion that a body of some kind is required. I don't know if there are spirit bodies or not. Okay. Now in my model, a perception point is associated with a vehicle, so the field and range of perception is also associated with the vehicle. It is finite. In a vehicle less point of perception, where does the field and range begin and end? What determines where it begins and ends? What makes it finite? |
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Andrew
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Post by Andrew on Sept 22, 2017 20:19:25 GMT
How do you know? I mean, what do you imagine he would be like if he seemed empty? Puleeeeeze! I don't experience 'appearances", so I don't have a reference for what you mean by 'experiencing full or empty appearances'. What are the characteristics of your experience of both full and empty appearances? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 20:26:41 GMT
I don't experience 'appearances", so I don't have a reference for what you mean by 'experiencing full or empty appearances'. What are the characteristics of your experience of both full and empty appearances? Who or what is aware of your non-experiencing of appearances? |
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Post by Andrew on Sept 22, 2017 20:33:24 GMT
I don't experience 'appearances", so I don't have a reference for what you mean by 'experiencing full or empty appearances'. What are the characteristics of your experience of both full and empty appearances? Who or what is aware of your non-experiencing of appearances? What is a non experience? Are you asking me who/what is aware of my experience of all that I experience? |
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