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Post by Figgles on Feb 16, 2020 3:21:20 GMT
To the extent that any of us might find reefs intolerable then there's no point in not writing that over on ST - or at least some sort of other expression of rebellion, which I have done on various occasions over the years. Not sure I get what you're saying....Must one find Reefs 'intolerable' for it to be important to speak up? ...There IS indeed a point in not writing what's on your mind regarding Reefs and his modding, IF you are interested in towing the line...not ruffling feathers, not getting slapped, not getting banned. So then, it's not fear that has you coming here to talk about it instead of doing so on ST, it's a sense of futility...apathy?
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Post by Figgles on Feb 16, 2020 3:25:03 GMT
To the extent that any of us might find reefs intolerable then there's no point in not writing that over on ST - or at least some sort of other expression of rebellion, which I have done on various occasions over the years. Now, what you have to keep in mind is that reefs took the moderation talk private. You can opine that I'm not pursuing the dialog over there because I'm afraid of repercussions but that's not the case. It's a futile topic over there, reefs and zd have both made it clear over the years that they're not interested in the coversationsations, and I'm not interested in trying to change their minds even if I thought that was a possibility. Isn't it obvious to you they might as well change ST to Ramakrishna Paramahansa et al Discussion Forum. Reefs & ZD have interests to protect (sell books). Any discussion/conversation that threatens the integrity of the authors of these books are given warnings or be banned What they are each protecting is their ego...their spiritual views that are so sacred and yet so fragile, that they cannot bear to have them challenged. As far as I know, Reefs is not an author and I don't think ZD is actively promoting/selling his book.
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Post by krsnaraja on Feb 16, 2020 4:57:07 GMT
Isn't it obvious to you they might as well change ST to Ramakrishna Paramahansa et al Discussion Forum. Reefs & ZD have interests to protect (sell books). Any discussion/conversation that threatens the integrity of the authors of these books are given warnings or be banned What they are each protecting is their ego...their spiritual views that are so sacred and yet so fragile, that they cannot bear to have them challenged. As far as I know, Reefs is not an author and I don't think ZD is actively promoting/selling his book. How can that be when Reefs and ZD are suppose to be egoless. I tried promoting Srila Prabhupad's books there e. g Srimad Bhagavatam but they won't allow it? ST has choices or lists of teachers it prefers (non - dual gurus) yet you can't find in that list who are dualists. There should be no distinction or discrimination when we categorize a forum which says Spiritual. Spirituality embraces all aspects of which are not physical. Just because there are views that do not conform to non - duality is not accepted or ignored?
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Post by Figgles on Feb 17, 2020 0:46:03 GMT
What they are each protecting is their ego...their spiritual views that are so sacred and yet so fragile, that they cannot bear to have them challenged. As far as I know, Reefs is not an author and I don't think ZD is actively promoting/selling his book. How can that be when Reefs and ZD are suppose to be egoless. I tried promoting Srila Prabhupad's books there e. g Srimad Bhagavatam but they won't allow it? ST has choices or lists of teachers it prefers (non - dual gurus) yet you can't find in that list who are dualists. There should be no distinction or discrimination when we categorize a forum which says Spiritual. Spirituality embraces all aspects of which are not physical. Just because there are views that do not conform to non - duality is not accepted or ignored? I see and a very important difference between general spirituality and Truth....and have no problem admitting that I do very much discriminate between the two on this forum.
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Post by krsnaraja on Feb 17, 2020 1:38:10 GMT
How can that be when Reefs and ZD are suppose to be egoless. I tried promoting Srila Prabhupad's books there e. g Srimad Bhagavatam but they won't allow it? ST has choices or lists of teachers it prefers (non - dual gurus) yet you can't find in that list who are dualists. There should be no distinction or discrimination when we categorize a forum which says Spiritual. Spirituality embraces all aspects of which are not physical. Just because there are views that do not conform to non - duality is not accepted or ignored? I see and a very important difference between general spirituality and Truth....and have no problem admitting that I do very much discriminate between the two on this forum. Did it ever occur to you that even the Truth is a lie? Krsna lied a lot even if He's the Truth. How many times have you lied to your husband, friends? The Truth is only dead men tell no lies.
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Post by Figgles on Feb 17, 2020 1:49:28 GMT
I see and a very important difference between general spirituality and Truth....and have no problem admitting that I do very much discriminate between the two on this forum. Did it ever occur to you that even the Truth is a lie? Krsna lied a lot even if He's the Truth. How many times have you lied to your husband, friends? The Truth is only dead men tell no lies. At one point that did occur to me...but that's when I had not yet fully seen that the 'conception' of the Truth, is not "the Truth."
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Post by Figgles on Feb 17, 2020 1:58:49 GMT
Not so fast.
But, what does it mean? That for some reason, there is an interest in prolonged silence, not speaking, and an interest in doing that in tandem with others who are similarly interested.
The basic interest in prolonged silence, absence of speaking, usually hings up a perception of a mind that is too busy, a need for a break... a problem that prolonged, prescribed silence will address. And....the interest in doing that with others, well, there is 'strength in numbers,' and most find the silence easier to stick to when they're amidst a group.
Interests of that sort do not generally arise in a vacuum. We can look to what appears to be seeking behavior, to suggest that that likely means 'seeking.'
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Post by krsnaraja on Feb 17, 2020 2:08:41 GMT
Did it ever occur to you that even the Truth is a lie? Krsna lied a lot even if He's the Truth. How many times have you lied to your husband, friends? The Truth is only dead men tell no lies. At one point that did occur to me...but that's when I had not yet fully seen that the 'conception' of the Truth, is not "the Truth." Yah, yah.. That which arises isn't real . That which is not is the truth. Many reasons why old men reminisce their libid experiences when they were still young. 😊
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Post by Figgles on Feb 19, 2020 2:07:10 GMT
And let me guess, every one of them that you interacted with, you did so for the sole reason of letting them know that you were SR...?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 2:39:54 GMT
And let me guess, every one of them that you interacted with, you did so for the sole reason of letting them know that you were SR...? We should rent a bus and go down to North Carolina to liven up that new TAT joint!!
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