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Post by Figgles on Feb 12, 2020 3:11:40 GMT
If this freedom you call an absence impacts on what is present then that must be an experience. What is present from moment to moment is appearing and disappearing and changing and if there is an impact on it, that obviously changes the experience. You are trying to have your cake and eat it. The more fundamental question would be, what is the point of SR if it doesn't have a positive effect on your life as lived in the body? Flawful logic. It is not an experience. It IMPACTS experience. There's a difference. Methinks it's around beer number 4 where those kind of mistakes of cognition start getting made...? |
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Post by Figgles on Feb 12, 2020 3:23:02 GMT
This is rich indeed.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2020 3:45:41 GMT
If this freedom you call an absence impacts on what is present then that must be an experience. What is present from moment to moment is appearing and disappearing and changing and if there is an impact on it, that obviously changes the experience. You are trying to have your cake and eat it. The more fundamental question would be, what is the point of SR if it doesn't have a positive effect on your life as lived in the body? Flawful logic. It is not an experience. It IMPACTS experience. There's a difference. What? How can something impact experience without changing the experience? How would you know there had been an impact? Talk about flawful. 😀 |
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Post by krsnaraja on Feb 12, 2020 4:12:48 GMT
This is rich indeed. At Zendancer's thread Samadhi countered by Sharon to send that experience to the website he proposed to Guilinda. A portion of Zendancer's post -----——------------ " Also, FWIW, I was never able to enter deep states of samadhi in a zendo with other people around--only when i was sitting by myself at home, alone. Once or twice I entered very shallow levels of samadhi in a zendo on retreats, but never anything super deep. Going deep always felt to some degree as if I had somehow gotten onto an elevator in the mind that descended to some unknowable depth before coming to rest." Sharon's reply ----—--------------- www.spiritual-experiences.com/submit-story.phpRead more: spiritualteachers.proboards.com/thread/5450/samadhi#ixzz6Di2kuDhX |
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Post by Enigma on Feb 12, 2020 16:32:09 GMT
Flawful logic. It is not an experience. It IMPACTS experience. There's a difference. Methinks it's around beer number 4 where those kind of mistakes of cognition start getting made...?  |
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Post by Figgles on Feb 12, 2020 16:47:55 GMT
Methinks it's around beer number 4 where those kind of mistakes of cognition start getting made...? Holy crap!! (You know there's a very big, loud beer belch coming on that heels of that! ) |
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Post by Figgles on Feb 12, 2020 23:03:14 GMT
Got to hand it to 'ol Sharon here......so very nimbly (yet subtly) pointing out to ZD his bias for one type of spiritual experience over another....when really, if we're talking spiritual 'experience' one is basically no different from the other. Neither is 'actually' transcendent, after all.
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Post by Enigma on Feb 13, 2020 2:51:25 GMT
Flawful logic. It is not an experience. It IMPACTS experience. There's a difference. What? How can something impact experience without changing the experience? How would you know there had been an impact? Talk about flawful. 😀 Flawful reading. Impacting the experience is the same as changing it. What you said is that absence is an experience. You'll find my response to that at the top of this post. (Have you finished off the six-pack at this point?) |
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Post by Enigma on Feb 13, 2020 2:55:28 GMT
Holy crap!! (You know there's a very big, loud beer belch coming on that heels of that! ) I was wondering if there was some spontaneous vomiting. |
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Post by Figgles on Feb 13, 2020 4:28:03 GMT
Holy crap!! (You know there's a very big, loud beer belch coming on that heels of that! ) I was wondering if there was some spontaneous vomiting. Hehe....look at the blonde kid's face in the background as the dude chug-a-lugs!  (yes...I'd be keeping the hell outta the way!!) |
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(yes...I'd be keeping the hell outta the way!!)