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Post by Figgles on Aug 28, 2024 18:57:34 GMT
Really..? How Reef-esque of her! Kinda odd don't you think, considering she's not even a mod?  I wonder if she's simply prompting you to inquire into your continued interest in posting so prolifically on a forum mostly dedicated to (at least in theory) to Nonduality, when your main interest is so clearly upon becoming "a better person"? Do you ever think you might be better suited to a philosophy forum....a self-help forum...a spiritual attainment/personal purification type content forum? And if not....look into THAT! Perhaps there's a reason you keep coming back to talk to folks whose interest in mostly Nonduality...?  |
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Post by Figgles on Sept 7, 2024 19:27:31 GMT
This is an astute observations, Tenka.
Ina has a huge blind spot and a glaring walk/talk issue re: his/her espoused engagement style. A response to another's posts that challenges what they are saying with an assertion that counters it, is "to present an argument with that point."
Ina hates being challenged..clearly, in the past demonstrated a strong aversion to even the most civil of challenges to his/her expressed point of view and I think this is what's behind this BS stance of 'I don't argue with others' proclamation.
If Ina's belief in a purely subjective reality, that everything experienced is the creation of the so called 'experiencer,' is as strong as he/she says it is, then those instances where he chastises another for their forum engagement style or suggests he's interested in what makes another tick psychologically, flies in the face of that supposed belief/way of seeing the workings of the world.
BS. In your response to another's post that disagrees with what they say, AND then asserts your own belief as "better," you Are engaging in argument. And there is nothing wrong with presenting a counter point on a spiritual forum. It's just that when YOU get challenged by another, it makes you feel bad, so you've set things up in a way that allows you to engage in challenge of others posts and an assertion of your ideas/beliefs as superior, without receiving strong challenge back.
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Post by Figgles on Sept 7, 2024 19:34:01 GMT
Yeah, Ina has not recognized that the ontology he/she presents, renders all ideas devoid of even "relative" truth.
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Post by Figgles on Sept 7, 2024 19:43:31 GMT
This is classic, "I've been backed into a corner and have no get outta jail free card," behavior. Tenka has outed your ontology as having holes all through it and instead of taking a deep look into what's being pointed out and humbly and sincerely facing the fact of those holes, you're cutting and running.
This is prime example of how egoic mind circumvents clarity in favor of saving face.
This is a perfect opportunity to inquire into intent towards clarity....is it really there, or not? if not, why not? What's at stake here? What do you stand to lose if you apply Tenka's assertions and respond?
It's crystal clear here that if you DID have a response that adequately countered, you'd give it, but plain and simply, you have no response. Look into that.
What you're doing is precisely what a few others on ST resort to when they get challenged in a way that illuminates their delusion. A refusal to answer a civil yet pointed question on a forum supposedly dedicated to Truth, is extremely telling.
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Post by Figgles on Sept 7, 2024 19:53:20 GMT
And the fact that his response jumbles up Absolute/relative context....dream-scape/Truth, is not gonna get even the slightest of mentions, is it?  I get it. Strong friendships on these forums often trump the aim of ferreting out Truth...but....still...  The "trillions of living things" is dream-scape...the "one looker" is beyond/prior to....ZD lumps them together as though "trillions of living things," have inherent, abiding existence, which of course, you are aware, is false. And "humans having a reflective function" that is distinct from "other" living things, belong in the relative context...has no place in a conversations where the context is designating Truth from appearance. |
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Post by Figgles on Sept 7, 2024 20:20:32 GMT
This right here assumes figgles to be something more than your own subjective, personal creation/reflection of your own inner psychological/spiritual machinations. Why would you try to figure out the inner, psychological workings of another if you truly believe they are nothing more than a facet of your own subjective creation?.....a reflection of what's going on within your own psyche/soul?
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Post by Figgles on Sept 7, 2024 20:38:30 GMT
Not so. It was well past your "starting" that nonsense. I'd made numerous requests for you to cease with the AI stuff and to keep your off topic postings to a particular thread and you completely disregarded those requests, if anything, significantly amping up the postings in question....creating more threads and littering existing ones with off-topic posts, Hare Krishna chants, etc. For a very long time Melvin, I'd put up with your off-topic posts...I even designated a particular area of my forum for you to post away as prolifically as you pleased...for a large part of that time, you behaved yourself, but then that little devil on your shoulder that urges you into your troll-like behavior on spiritual forums, got the best of you it seems. It's clear you like f-ing with people....poking and prodding just for the sake of getting a reaction and you have zero actual interest in Truth, which means my reasons for allowing you to continue to engage on my forum, had run thin. It made way more sense just to ban you. It wasn't until that was done that I started perusing the forum and realized just how much you've 'littered' it up with your nonsense. You are now in the process of doing the same over on ST. You are pretending to be interested in Nonduality, but your true interest is in poking and provoking...."trolling"...I suspect it won't be long until you're posting in every thread so when someone logs in, "Melvin" is the most recent poster in all....i think you like seeing your name all over like that...the idea of taking over the forum. Anyway, time will tell, but I stand by my sense that you're not on the up & up. Awakening is all about realizing that ultimately, so much that you "thought" you knew, was false. But really, that's a pointer you will be unable to currently grasp. What i DO know, relatively speaking with present moment certainty is that I do not enjoy your energy and game playing and it felt good to get rid of your troll-ish footprint on my forum. Doing just fine Mel.  The forum serves more as blog format at this point, although there are some good PM convos in the mix as well. The relative, awakening to the consensus trance that is referenced by that particular thread "The Great Awakening," does indeed still seem to be underway according to 'my' experience of the appearing world. |
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Post by Figgles on Sept 8, 2024 18:32:54 GMT
Many on these forums have a strange aversion to admitting to "argument" in their posts. To challenge the spiritual point of view/ontology of another on a discussion forum, particularly one supposedly dedicated to Truth, to compare what you think is being said to observed behavior that as you see it, is out of synch with espoused view, does fulfill the definition of what it means to 'present an argument.' There's tons of leeway between a civil challenge/argument/debate of presented ideas vs. a nasty, personal, fight/attack. Challenge of ideas on a forum dedicated to ferreting out Truth should be expected and even embraced...that is...if the participants are actually interested in getting to the crux of it all. Most often what I see is folks who say their highest interest is Truth, but then they run away and hide or complain pitifully, when their espoused view is challenged to a degree that pokes holes in their view. Ina is demonstrated a classic example of that in the convo you're engaged with him/her. Civil argument is not the big 'ol boogey-man so many on ST make it out to be. Civil challenge of expressed viewpoints on a spiritual discussion forum/Nonduality forum, is the best means available to dig down deep and ferret out what's what. And that my friend, is a solid "argument" against what Ina has been saying. Oh yes! But, important not to shy away from the fact that questioning one's espoused/written view of reality, because walk does not match written word/talk, IS to present "argument" in challenge of that espoused view. Yup. There's a whole group on ST who should have that one as their footnote.  |
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Post by Figgles on Sept 10, 2024 16:40:49 GMT
Yup. That's a very good descriptor of your forum engagement style.
I nicely told you five times in a row to stop with the AI stuff, and each time, you responded by posting more. I call that misbehaving. I was overly generous in letting you even use my forum in the first place. Over on ST, you demonstrating some very disturbing behaviors,at times becoming overly sexual and saying gross things, even posting questionable pics...one involved a child, oddly and suggestively positioned. Then there was the convo where you told of a kitten, being soaked in the rain, crying outside your window and how you did nothing at all....just let it cry.....and the icing on the cake that really illuminated your character, your response to conversations of the Covid vax having severe side effects, even causing death in some, you (supposedly a medical DR.) described as mere "collateral damage," where some might perish, but all for a greater good of the masses. Looking back, I should have sent you packing before you even started on your so called "diary, painstakingly written for posterity."
Yes, I insisted you stop and you didn't stop. Five times I insisted you stop with AI interpretations and 5 times, you went ahead and posted AI interpretations. Get it?
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Post by Figgles on Sept 14, 2024 18:15:45 GMT
Nice. A very good description of what it means to awaken to the consensus trance...to become more consciously aware as a person, as to what's actually going on...what is directly, relatively, known for certain vs. that which is assumed/surmised or imagined to be.
This speaks to Jed McKenna's "becoming a mature, human adult," which he posits as the next best thing when full SR/awakening to Truth has not yet happened.
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The forum serves more as blog format at this point, although there are some good PM convos in the mix as well. The relative, awakening to the consensus trance that is referenced by that particular thread "The Great Awakening," does indeed still seem to be underway according to 'my' experience of the appearing world.