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Post by Figgles on Nov 26, 2022 17:41:20 GMT
Excellent questions are asking here Andrew!
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Post by Figgles on Nov 28, 2022 0:12:22 GMT
If that were true, then the moment one recognized they'd been an egoic arsehole would be the moment they engaged the egoic arsehole.
You leave no room for dispassionately recognizing ego as it arises...which btw, goes hand in hand with the ego lying down.
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Post by Inavalan on Nov 28, 2022 3:24:24 GMT
If that were true, then the moment one recognized they'd been an egoic arsehole would be the moment they engaged the egoic arsehole. You leave no room for dispassionately recognizing ego as it arises...which btw, goes hand in hand with the ego lying down. You don't come through as dispassionate, but loaded. |
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Post by Figgles on Nov 28, 2022 7:17:44 GMT
If that were true, then the moment one recognized they'd been an egoic arsehole would be the moment they engaged the egoic arsehole. You leave no room for dispassionately recognizing ego as it arises...which btw, goes hand in hand with the ego lying down. You don't come through as dispassionate, but loaded. Aw, thanks Inavalan. Very kind of you to say.   |
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Post by Inavalan on Nov 28, 2022 7:53:00 GMT
You don't come through as dispassionate, but loaded. Aw, thanks Inavalan. Very kind of you to say. Would you like people to lie to you? I don't think I was rude, not even slightly. Also, you surely don't have to value my opinion. |
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Post by Figgles on Nov 28, 2022 17:17:35 GMT
Aw, thanks Inavalan. Very kind of you to say. Would you like people to lie to you? I don't think I was rude, not even slightly. Also, you surely don't have to value my opinion. Nope...it's all good...just commenting/responding to your comments...as you did now to mine. Again, you seem to hold a double-standard; It's more than okay for you to respond to my posts with an element of disdain, but when I (or anyone) responds back to you in a similar manner, you get all pissy. This what unfair/self-centered people do....their code of engagement with others is warped...they give themselves passes that they don't give to others...very much like what's going on on social platforms right now with the woke holding so called "unwoke" to unbalanced standards. |
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Post by Inavalan on Nov 28, 2022 18:25:09 GMT
Would you like people to lie to you? I don't think I was rude, not even slightly. Also, you surely don't have to value my opinion. Nope...it's all good...just commenting/responding to your comments...as you did now to mine. Again, you seem to hold a double-standard; It's more than okay for you to respond to my posts with an element of disdain, but when I (or anyone) responds back to you in a similar manner, you get all pissy. This what unfair/self-centered people do....their code of engagement with others is warped...they give themselves passes that they don't give to others...very much like what's going on on social platforms right now with the woke holding so called "unwoke" to unbalanced standards. You misinterpret. Try to use intuition more than intellect and emotions. It reduces involuntary distortions both from my part, as source, and from your part, as receiver. Your getting so upset with me may be an unconscious reaction; you feel threatened in your beliefs. I don't intend to change them; I just state mine. There is nothing to argue, because spiritual beliefs, as you know, aren't logical, and shouldn't be emotional based either. |
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Post by Figgles on Nov 28, 2022 18:27:59 GMT
Nope...it's all good...just commenting/responding to your comments...as you did now to mine. Again, you seem to hold a double-standard; It's more than okay for you to respond to my posts with an element of disdain, but when I (or anyone) responds back to you in a similar manner, you get all pissy. This what unfair/self-centered people do....their code of engagement with others is warped...they give themselves passes that they don't give to others...very much like what's going on on social platforms right now with the woke holding so called "unwoke" to unbalanced standards. Try to use intuition more than intellect and emotions. It reduces involuntary distortions both from my part, as source, and from your part, as receiver. Your getting so upset with me may be an unconscious reaction; you feel threatened in your beliefs. I don't intend to change them; I just state mine. There is nothing to argue, because spiritual beliefs, as you know, aren't logical, and shouldn't be emotional based either. What precisely/where precisely am I misinterpreting? Again, you throw that out, without an actual explanation. |
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Post by Figgles on Nov 28, 2022 21:03:00 GMT
Inherent to "WHAT IS," in a moment where it's seen someone is drowning, is very likely going to be an impersonal, non-contemplated, arising impulse to take action, and that of course would be part and parcel of what's accepted.
The person always wants to divvy up the condition from the arising response to it...in terms of 'what it,' both are included. It's only the presence of an SVP that will take ownership of the arising impulse to action and thus, declare is something other than 'what is.'
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Post by Figgles on Nov 28, 2022 21:08:23 GMT
As all Nonduality pointers ultimate are, it's a pointer to the absence of the imagined, separate, volitional person. That's the only 'thing' that ever stands in the way of a "fundamental" acceptance of THIS.
When the SVP is absent, anything at all that arises is untainted by delusion..."fundamental" acceptance/allowance then is a given, as that which stands in the way of acceptance/allowance is never any-thing other than the imagined separate entity, complete with the overlay of judgment it will place upon whatever is appearing/happening.
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