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Post by Figgles on Aug 10, 2022 18:08:46 GMT
Ultimately, not even a 'who,' just a perspective....and ultimately, not even an argument....just pointing away from delusion.
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Post by ghostofmuttley on Aug 10, 2022 20:44:24 GMT
No....a nice idea....poetic perhaps. But if we're talkin' Truth...and I always am here...that's just a hot mess. Sure. I can understand how it seems that way, to you.
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Post by Figgles on Aug 10, 2022 21:07:19 GMT
No....a nice idea....poetic perhaps. But if we're talkin' Truth...and I always am here...that's just a hot mess. Sure. I can understand how it seems that way, to you. It's possible, likely evenm you do not actually grasp why it is I say it's just a nice idea. & Clearly there is no interest on your part to explore further...to rise to my challenge....to figure out if we are even understanding your words in the same way. It's that strange dichotomy between demonstrating interest in exploration via spending years on a forum dedicated to Truth vs. bailing from conversations when challenge arises, that I find so odd.
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Post by ghostofmuttley on Aug 10, 2022 23:36:02 GMT
Sure. I can understand how it seems that way, to you. It's possible, likely evenm you do not actually grasp why it is I say it's just a nice idea. & Clearly there is no interest on your part to explore further...to rise to my challenge....to figure out if we are even understanding your words in the same way. It's that strange dichotomy between demonstrating interest in exploration via spending years on a forum dedicated to Truth vs. bailing from conversations when challenge arises, that I find so odd. You're "challenging" a poem. The potential argument is all TMT from the get-go, and after all these years, you don't think I know when writing something for you will only get you to dig into your conceptual foxhole all the deeper?
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Post by Figgles on Aug 11, 2022 0:10:44 GMT
It's possible, likely evenm you do not actually grasp why it is I say it's just a nice idea. & Clearly there is no interest on your part to explore further...to rise to my challenge....to figure out if we are even understanding your words in the same way. It's that strange dichotomy between demonstrating interest in exploration via spending years on a forum dedicated to Truth vs. bailing from conversations when challenge arises, that I find so odd. You're "challenging" a poem. The potential argument is all TMT from the get-go, and after all these years, you don't think I know when writing something for you will only get you to dig into your conceptual foxhole all the deeper? Go back & read what i actually said. I gave it props as a "poetry"...said it was a nice idea. My point was pretty much what you are also now saying, or seem to be saying..? Not entirely sure....it's a poem... not an attempt to point...not a pointer to Truth...it's a poem that is not related to Truth...? Poems still do express an idea...and some poems are indeed pointers to Truth... and the idea that creation conspires....or that there is some kind of process behind perception is more of a mystical idea only vs. a pointer to Truth. There is an important difference and that difference lies with the expressed idea...the intent behind the words.
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Post by Esponja on Aug 12, 2022 2:30:16 GMT
Ultimately, not even a 'who,' just a perspective....and ultimately, not even an argument....just pointing away from delusion. Why is it an argument? That makes no sense. You are pointing to truth. This reminds me of those that walk out of Tony Parson’s meetings.
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Post by Esponja on Aug 12, 2022 2:32:13 GMT
This is a context issue. Relatively speaking, as the story goes, yes, there are multiple mind-scapes, but impersonally speaking, absolute speaking, one, singular, unbounded, unchanging awareness that knows the story/dream-scape as a singular appearance within/to it. The actuality/Truth is that "multiple minds," are a relative facet of the dream-scape....and as such, harkening back to the Spira quote I offered a few days ago.... they are like the brush-strokes of a painting....the absolute view does not focus upon/recognize them...the dream-scape as a whole is seen as an empty appearance only arising within/to that which is unbounded...unchanging....multiple, individuated mind-scapes, included within that...just as brush-strokes are included in the overall painting/picture. The "mind of God," is singular and unbroken....not divided up into mini-Gods/existent entities who are the ground to arising mini-God minds. No separation but you got to get out of mind to get there. 🤪
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Post by Figgles on Aug 12, 2022 5:03:31 GMT
Ultimately, not even a 'who,' just a perspective....and ultimately, not even an argument....just pointing away from delusion. Why is it an argument? That makes no sense. You are pointing to truth. This reminds me of those that walk out of Tony Parson’s meetings. Yeah, it's a funny thing how mad some people get when they hear the Truth--mind/ego rebels against it.
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Post by Figgles on Aug 12, 2022 5:04:41 GMT
This is a context issue. Relatively speaking, as the story goes, yes, there are multiple mind-scapes, but impersonally speaking, absolute speaking, one, singular, unbounded, unchanging awareness that knows the story/dream-scape as a singular appearance within/to it. The actuality/Truth is that "multiple minds," are a relative facet of the dream-scape....and as such, harkening back to the Spira quote I offered a few days ago.... they are like the brush-strokes of a painting....the absolute view does not focus upon/recognize them...the dream-scape as a whole is seen as an empty appearance only arising within/to that which is unbounded...unchanging....multiple, individuated mind-scapes, included within that...just as brush-strokes are included in the overall painting/picture. The "mind of God," is singular and unbroken....not divided up into mini-Gods/existent entities who are the ground to arising mini-God minds. No separation but you got to get out of mind to get there. 🤪 Yes, exactly!
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