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Post by Figgles on Jan 13, 2020 21:02:31 GMT
I just want to add ZD; In seeing that no experience can be Truthy. you don't have to give up the 'experience' itself, just your erroneous belief that it's the absolute Truth.
You DO have to relinquish your "it's all alive" into the "dream-content pile," but you do not have to relinquish your experience of the entire cosmos as alive.
You DO have to relinquish your "unified field of aliveness" into the"dream-content pile," but you do not have to stop experiencing that unified field of aliveness.
You DO have to relinquish your "knowing that appearing people are perceiving/experiencing" into the "dream content pile", but you don't have to relinquish your experience of others as experiencing/perceiving.
I think some are worried that when it's said, "you gotta give that shit up..all of it," that that means thereafter, experiencing a world of deadness, abject/literal nothingness, emptiness. Not so.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 4:14:37 GMT
But expectation kills the future. I see expectation are placed in us out of illusion to be not to met. I'm not really understanding anything you've said today. Sorry dude. Are you in speed posting mode today or sumthin? Expecting something would happen is the only enemy to the natural flow of things.
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Post by Figgles on Jan 14, 2020 5:45:23 GMT
I'm not really understanding anything you've said today. Sorry dude. Are you in speed posting mode today or sumthin? Expecting something would happen is the only enemy to the natural flow of things. Life experience is rife with all sorts of expectations; As you close your eyes to go to sleep at night, you expect to sleep, to wake up, for the sun to rise. As you wait for a light to turn green at a road crossing, you expect it will turn, As you place fingers on your keyboard, you expect words to appear on the screen..... Expectation is not problematic. Intolerance/fundamental resistance to the content of the present moment, is.
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Post by Enigma on Jan 14, 2020 14:45:40 GMT
I'm not really understanding anything you've said today. Sorry dude. Are you in speed posting mode today or sumthin? Expecting something would happen is the only enemy to the natural flow of things. Oh is that what you said? Okay. As I see it, expectation is what maintains the predictable patterns of creation in the face of infinite potential. It's the belief that things have to be as they are.
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Post by Enigma on Jan 14, 2020 14:46:49 GMT
Expecting something would happen is the only enemy to the natural flow of things. Life experience is rife with all sorts of expectations; As you close your eyes to go to sleep at night, you expect to sleep, to wake up, for the sun to rise. As you wait for a light to turn green at a road crossing, you expect it will turn, As you place fingers on your keyboard, you expect words to appear on the screen..... Expectation is not problematic. Intolerance/fundamental resistance to the content of the present moment, is. Yup
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 13:33:06 GMT
Expecting something would happen is the only enemy to the natural flow of things. Life experience is rife with all sorts of expectations; As you close your eyes to go to sleep at night, you expect to sleep, to wake up, for the sun to rise. As you wait for a light to turn green at a road crossing, you expect it will turn, As you place fingers on your keyboard, you expect words to appear on the screen..... Expectation is not problematic. Intolerance/fundamental resistance to the content of the present moment, is. Expectation and knowing that it is definitely going to happen is not a problem. For an example, let's assume you are conceived with a baby and you are going for a scan and scan report says that you are carrying a baby girl. Now your expectation to have the baby girl is a definite belief in you, that's not a problem, it will happen that way. Now let's assume a second condition, you are conceived a baby and assume you are in India now and in India it's not allowed to see the gender of the baby. NOW, If you are expecting a baby girl, this expectation is the problematic one. This sort of expectation is what I am talking about. Expectation freezes the future.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 13:37:54 GMT
Expecting something would happen is the only enemy to the natural flow of things. Oh is that what you said? Okay. As I see it, expectation is what maintains the predictable patterns of creation in the face of infinite potential. It's the belief that things have to be as they are. Yes, that's not the problem. But if you say you can expect anything and have the stubborn belief that something is going to happen would cause it to happen, then I would disagree with you because story would create the expectation and confirm it with the belief as well.
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Post by Enigma on Jan 15, 2020 14:45:47 GMT
Life experience is rife with all sorts of expectations; As you close your eyes to go to sleep at night, you expect to sleep, to wake up, for the sun to rise. As you wait for a light to turn green at a road crossing, you expect it will turn, As you place fingers on your keyboard, you expect words to appear on the screen..... Expectation is not problematic. Intolerance/fundamental resistance to the content of the present moment, is. Expectation and knowing that it is definitely going to happen is not a problem. For an example, let's assume you are conceived with a baby and you are going for a scan and scan report says that you are carrying a baby girl. Now your expectation to have the baby girl is a definite belief in you, that's not a problem, it will happen that way. Now let's assume a second condition, you are conceived a baby and assume you are in India now and in India it's not allowed to see the gender of the baby. NOW, If you are expecting a baby girl, this expectation is the problematic one. This sort of expectation is what I am talking about. Expectation freezes the future.If you're saying the expectation is creative, I agree, but there aren't different sorts of expectation that don't 'freeze the future'.
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Post by Enigma on Jan 15, 2020 14:54:38 GMT
Oh is that what you said? Okay. As I see it, expectation is what maintains the predictable patterns of creation in the face of infinite potential. It's the belief that things have to be as they are. Yes, that's not the problem. But if you say you can expect anything and have the stubborn belief that something is going to happen would cause it to happen, then I would disagree with you because story would create the expectation and confirm it with the belief as well. Yes, the conditioning creates the expectation and belief, not the person. Belief forms on the basis of evidence. You cannot choose to believe. It would be a split mind process that doesn't lead to either belief or expectation.
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Post by Enigma on Jan 15, 2020 15:00:40 GMT
Oh is that what you said? Okay. As I see it, expectation is what maintains the predictable patterns of creation in the face of infinite potential. It's the belief that things have to be as they are. Yes, that's not the problem. But if you say you can expect anything and have the stubborn belief that something is going to happen would cause it to happen, then I would disagree with you because story would create the expectation and confirm it with the belief as well. It IS a problem if you don't like the way things are.
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