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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 14:03:41 GMT
"He has no self. Only reactions. Keep this in mind and things become a tiny bit clearer. Narcissus fell in love with his own reflection, yes. But he didn't know that was him. Narcissism isn't self-love. It's confusion of self and not-self. This is why he's a deranged media figure."
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Post by Figgles on Oct 27, 2018 15:20:28 GMT
"He has no self. Only reactions. Keep this in mind and things become a tiny bit clearer. Narcissus fell in love with his own reflection, yes. But he didn't know that was him. Narcissism isn't self-love. It's confusion of self and not-self. This is why he's a deranged media figure." - tweet from someone about Trump A narcissistic, deranged media figure, pretty nicely sums it up. (Excellent definition of Narcissism there too). As someone 'out of the fray' (not a US citizen, but still close by, Canadian) looking on at the whole situation, the most fascinating thing is watching how so many of those who see Trump as the means to their end, don't merely 'overlook' but outright 'deny' his derangement. It's one thing for folks to want change, to use their vote as a means to let the establishment know they are sick and tired of the old ways, but in seeking change, make sure you're actually supporting something 'better' and not just something 'different'. Those who support him, if they actually DO acknowledge his bigotry, misogyny, extreme immaturity, often pass it all off with 'who cares so long as he gets me what I want.' Hitler too, was something 'different.' And I don't make that comparison lightly. Trump's general position is similarly, cut-throat, selfish, power-hungry. If you're reading this Andrew, I'd be curious to hear what you have to say on this. I think we touched lightly on the whole Trump thing in the past, and I get the sense you are one of those who says 'he's not perfect but better than the old'? And if so, do you fully acknowledge his 'derangement,' or like so many who say 'change at any cost,' do you downplay it, overlook it, or outright deny it? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 16:36:50 GMT
"Maybe it's time to put that 'anyone can grow up to be president' to rest" |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 16:45:30 GMT
There was a time long ago, when I was transitioning from conspiracy theories to spiritual theories, that I found myself in a David Wilcock type world. [insert crazy town emoji] |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 20:37:07 GMT
Wow. More conspiracy theories, whataboutism, spin, and lies, even in the midst of horrific hate crimes.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 20:43:51 GMT
"Maybe it's time to put that 'anyone can grow up to be president' to rest" Check this out from the rally in Detroit yesterday when Obama spoke- www.wafb.com/2018/10/27/obama-takes-aim-trump-gop-fiery-milwaukee-speech/By IVAN MORENO and DAVID EGGERT | October 26, 2018 at 8:38 PM CDT - Updated October 27 at 1:58 AM DETROIT (AP) — Former President Barack Obama criticized President Donald Trump's tenure in office Friday in fiery speeches in Milwaukee and Detroit that took aim at him and other Republicans for "making stuff up." The speeches were among Obama's sharpest and most direct takedowns of Trump's presidency, although the former president was careful to not mention Trump by name. He said the "character of our country is on the ballot" in the first midterm election since Trump took office. Obama cited a recent Trump comment that he would pass a tax cut before the November election. Obama then told the crowds in high school gymnasiums that "Congress isn't even in session before the election! He just makes it up!"At one point Obama said in Wisconsin: "Here's the thing. Everything I say you can look up." Obama's visits were to urge people to vote for Michigan and Wisconsin's Democratic candidates. While Trump was frequently the target of his criticism, he did not spare Republicans generally and said they are lying when they say they want to protect people with pre-existing conditions while trying to repeal the Affordable Care Act.10 days until the mid-term election. Yeah, I follow that Shauna person too. Mostly journalists, political pundits and historians in my feed. I have to turn away frequently, its just too damn much. |
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Post by muttley on Oct 31, 2018 4:56:23 GMT
A piece of work like Donny sure does generate the ammo for an impersonal, third-party psychological diagnosis based on his public persona. No doubt, the boy's got issues.
But what's just as fascinating about this is the rage he's eliciting in the opposition, which, if you stop underestimating him, you can see was and remains a completely deliberate and ongoing trap for his opponents. They'd be wise to get acquainted with the old adage "you've become what you're fighting against".
Also, there's been quite a bit of dysfunction in the American political system for my entire adult life, and historically, it's really always been there, and not just in the American system, which, arguably (if taken in a greater context that goes beyond politics, and with the right relative metrics), is about the best the planet has ever produced. Really, what I see happening here -- on both sides -- is the blossoming of an outward expression of a long-simmering internal rot. You see, narcissism, like any other personality disorder, is a matter of degree, and anyone who decides to run for POTUS has what's at the core of it in unbroken spades. My personal opinion is that the modern personalities that saw a minima of this were Obama and Carter, but honey, that ain't sayin' much. 
Whatever. Well, we'll all either take a collective step back and a universal good deep breath, and pull back from the brink. Or not. 
In any event, that a NYC real-estate developer found political success as an underdog populist is one of the most fascinating ironies I've ever seen play out in my lifetime, and don't doubt that this guy has the capacity to evoke genuine feelings of what seems like love -- via pity, and also, a sense of self-validaton -- from a wide swath of the populace. You can make and wallow in your judgements of these people if you want, but that's what got us all here in the first place. 
And the next time you accuse him of being a liar, remember, that the most effective lies have a minimum of provable falsity, and this is something that any political or other media voice that is loud enough for you to hear would have had to have learned long before the hearing, or else you would never have heard them.
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Post by Figgles on Oct 31, 2018 18:29:41 GMT
A piece of work like Donny sure does generate the ammo for an impersonal, third-party psychological diagnosis based on his public persona. No doubt, the boy's got issues. But what's just as fascinating about this is the rage he's eliciting in the opposition, which, if you stop underestimating him, you can see was and remains a completely deliberate and ongoing trap for his opponents. They'd be wise to get acquainted with the old adage "you've become what you're fighting against".
Also, there's been quite a bit of dysfunction in the American political system for my entire adult life, and historically, it's really always been there, and not just in the American system, which, arguably (if taken in a greater context that goes beyond politics, and with the right relative metrics), is about the best the planet has ever produced. Really, what I see happening here -- on both sides -- is the blossoming of an outward expression of a long-simmering internal rot. You see, narcissism, like any other personality disorder, is a matter of degree, and anyone who decides to run for POTUS has what's at the core of it in unbroken spades. My personal opinion is that the modern personalities that saw a minima of this were Obama and Carter, but honey, that ain't sayin' much. Whatever. Well, we'll all either take a collective step back and a universal good deep breath, and pull back from the brink. Or not. In any event, that a NYC real-estate developer found political success as an underdog populist is one of the most fascinating ironies I've ever seen play out in my lifetime, and don't doubt that this guy has the capacity to evoke genuine feelings of what seems like love -- via pity, and also, a sense of self-validaton -- from a wide swath of the populace. You can make and wallow in your judgements of these people if you want, but that's what got us all here in the first place. And the next time you accuse him of being a liar, remember, that the most effective lies have a minimum of provable falsity, and this is something that any political or other media voice that is loud enough for you to hear would have had to have learned long before the hearing, or else you would never have heard them.
No doubt, folks are pushing back, but can you give some examples of actual 'rage'? I see that term as indicative of one who is so angry, he's lost to it....and in that, has lost sight of what's truly important....of what he actually 'wants' vs. what he is fighting against. One who is 'enraged' in that sense, as i see it, would be one who is far more embroiled in lashing back than in moving towards that which they value. Do you see the opposition as a whole as enraged, or just certain folks, certain groups...? .... And how can you tell one is truly 'enraged' vs. one who is deeply opposed to what's happening and has a sharp focus upon what is wanted, what is valued? |
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Post by Figgles on Oct 31, 2018 18:30:26 GMT
Dear President Bone Spurs The 14th Amendment’s citizenship guarantee is clear. You can’t erase the Constitution with an executive order. Suck on that ya draft dodgin' little.... You're going after Mueller, too? See ya next Tuesday in that sanctuary known as a voting booth. I'll be thinking of ya...   |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2018 23:52:28 GMT
A piece of work like Donny sure does generate the ammo for an impersonal, third-party psychological diagnosis based on his public persona. No doubt, the boy's got issues. But what's just as fascinating about this is the rage he's eliciting in the opposition, which, if you stop underestimating him, you can see was and remains a completely deliberate and ongoing trap for his opponents. They'd be wise to get acquainted with the old adage "you've become what you're fighting against".
Also, there's been quite a bit of dysfunction in the American political system for my entire adult life, and historically, it's really always been there, and not just in the American system, which, arguably (if taken in a greater context that goes beyond politics, and with the right relative metrics), is about the best the planet has ever produced. Really, what I see happening here -- on both sides -- is the blossoming of an outward expression of a long-simmering internal rot. You see, narcissism, like any other personality disorder, is a matter of degree, and anyone who decides to run for POTUS has what's at the core of it in unbroken spades. My personal opinion is that the modern personalities that saw a minima of this were Obama and Carter, but honey, that ain't sayin' much. Whatever. Well, we'll all either take a collective step back and a universal good deep breath, and pull back from the brink. Or not. In any event, that a NYC real-estate developer found political success as an underdog populist is one of the most fascinating ironies I've ever seen play out in my lifetime, and don't doubt that this guy has the capacity to evoke genuine feelings of what seems like love -- via pity, and also, a sense of self-validaton -- from a wide swath of the populace. You can make and wallow in your judgements of these people if you want, but that's what got us all here in the first place. And the next time you accuse him of being a liar, remember, that the most effective lies have a minimum of provable falsity, and this is something that any political or other media voice that is loud enough for you to hear would have had to have learned long before the hearing, or else you would never have heard them.
Yup. Voter registration is up where we live. We had a record 2.2 million vote here in the primaries in August. Absentee ballot returns here are approaching 300,000 as of Oct. 18 (up 50% from 2014..), and have likely eclipsed that number by now. All signs point to a record voter turnout. I just heard on Morning Joe that Trump will be traveling to 11 states to campaign in the next 7 days, but Michigan won't be one of them. He practically lived here in 2016..... lying his ass off..... The neutering of a president. Coming November 6th to a voter booth near you. P.S. Donald. Please keep your golf cart OFF the greens. You look like a moron when you do that. Yay Michigan! (Blue and maize & green and white) and yeah, keep the carts on the path a hundred yards in |
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