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Post by Figgles on May 22, 2017 3:09:19 GMT
Cool. I had some very vivid and indepth conversations with my brother following his unexpected death 11+ yrs. ago. At first that's what he kept telling me over and over, that from where he now sat, his life 'here,' appeared to be a dream, and the realm he now experienced, although far more fluid in all sorts of ways, felt "real" in comparison, the same way one awakens from a dream that seemed in every way to be 'real' while sleeping, but from the vantage point of being awake, can now be seen for the dream it was. His main point in stressing that was that from his new vantage point, he was laughing at how seriously he took things that he can now see where not at all serious....so many things he'd worried about that all looked so silly now from his new vantage point. At first I felt scared, " Wow! This world is not the world I am at present I said to myself. This is a dreamworld! What if I wont be able to wake up into present world? For sure my wife and children will miss me. " So, I continued acting from that dream. There was even this guy sitting next to me and I rubbed his face and told him, " Hey, this world is a dream. " As I was telling him that I heard a great roaring sound coming down at us. I stood up and ran towards the exit of the building. When I gone out, I saw from afar rushing water coming down the mountain and into a lake. Then I woke up. Yes. Most of my dreams these days are of this 'lucid' nature. and I've also experienced talking to folks in my dream about the fact that 'this is a dream'....gets mixed reception.  There are some that believe the dream world and lucid dreaming where one becomes adept at manifesting a particular desired scenario, serves as a 'training ground' of sorts for manifestation skills when it comes to waking reality.....any opinions on that? |
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Post by Krsnaraja on May 22, 2017 13:46:51 GMT
Have you experienced dreaming then in that dream you woke up knowing you are awake in this dream? At first I felt scared, " Wow! This world is not the world I am at present I said to myself. This is a dreamworld! What if I wont be able to wake up into present world? For sure my wife and children will miss me. " So, I continued acting from that dream. There was even this guy sitting next to me and I rubbed his face and told him, " Hey, this world is a dream. " As I was telling him that I heard a great roaring sound coming down at us. I stood up and ran towards the exit of the building. When I gone out, I saw from afar rushing water coming down the mountain and into a lake. Then I woke up. Yes. Most of my dreams these days are of this 'lucid' nature. and I've also experienced talking to folks in my dream about the fact that 'this is a dream'....gets mixed reception. There are some that believe the dream world and lucid dreaming where one becomes adept at manifesting a particular desired scenario, serves as a 'training ground' of sorts for manifestation skills when it comes to waking reality.....any opinions on that? Dreaming is when the spirit/soul departs from the physical body and it`s transported to a world where anything goes. Sometimes I see myself riding a boat and this boat is passing through streets and highways not at sea. I see myself flying like superman/riding in spaceships. I see myself catching fish the size of sharks using a hook and line. I see myself in dark alleys, slums, in hospitals. Each time I go to sleep, I dream. I remember these dreams when I wake up. People I often ask if they dream and remember them when they wake up. Most of them don`t. They can not remember they were dreaming. Maybe you watched that movie Avatar. It`s something like that. He wakens his avatar when he is asleep. So, I feel I have different avatars in the dream world. That when I go to sleep, I awaken that avatar there. Just like me in this world, I am awaken when my avatar sleeps in that other world. And when I sleep my avatar awakes. I am an avatar to my avatar and so is he? |
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Post by amoeba on Sept 27, 2021 2:44:08 GMT
Everyone after death goes into dreamland. The living goes into a dream and comes back when they wake up. In dreamland, it is where the living and the dead meet. The world we are at present is a dream, a phantasmogoria says Lord Brahma to Narada. What we wish and dream is what we become. Cool. I had some very vivid and indepth conversations with my brother following his unexpected death 11+ yrs. ago. At first that's what he kept telling me over and over, that from where he now sat, his life 'here,' appeared to be a dream, and the realm he now experienced, although far more fluid in all sorts of ways, felt "real" in comparison, the same way one awakens from a dream that seemed in every way to be 'real' while sleeping, but from the vantage point of being awake, can now be seen for the dream it was. His main point in stressing that was that from his new vantage point, he was laughing at how seriously he took things that he can now see where not at all serious....so many things he'd worried about that all looked so silly now from his new vantage point. Figlet, when much younger and traversing mind, (turned 74 sept 25th)
the 'sensitising' that meditation was bringing-about sure showed the fluidity
our dreaming-bodies experience like you mentioned way back, when speaking Brother.
Firstly, the Dmt released from pineal introspection (a oncer, 1974)
brought about a far different experience than that of 'smoking the medicine'.
Smoking in later years revealed only the outer-layer of reality coming to grief,
behind that, a much more intuitive platform became apparent that one could work with.
From my experiences of NDE's... there must be hundreds of ways to die a death before finality.
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Post by Inavalan on Sept 30, 2021 2:10:30 GMT
Dreams are places in the spiritual where you get to experience a lot of things never you imagine you could do in waking world. Since I am still alive I get to see a glimpse of what the spirit world appears. The way I see it, dreams are a state of conspicuousness as awake, sleep, hypnosis, and others, are. Dreams distort the wide-reality too, just in a different way than the awake state. There is only one reality, distorted differently. When you dream you keep your most of your beliefs, but time and space are less restrictive. When you're hypnotized your beliefs are much less restrictive, and time and space depend on the level of trance. |
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Post by krsnaraja on Sept 30, 2021 5:18:15 GMT
Dreams are places in the spiritual where you get to experience a lot of things never you imagine you could do in waking world. Since I am still alive I get to see a glimpse of what the spirit world appears. The way I see it, dreams are a state of conspicuousness as awake, sleep, hypnosis, and others, are. Dreams distort the wide-reality too, just in a different way than the awake state. There is only one reality, distorted differently. When you dream you keep your most of your beliefs, but time and space are less restrictive. When you're hypnotized your beliefs are much less restrictive, and time and space depend on the level of trance. I can' t comment on what's like to be hypnotized because I have not experienced it. But dreams I do because I regularly dream of people, places and events. Sort of recalling the experience say, when we went to Shanghai, Zhianjiaje, China on a four day tour. Recalling the experience when we went to China's Little Venice, Shanghai or walking on Zhiangjiaje's Glass Bridge seemed like a dream. Until you get to see the photos you were actually there. But scriptures will tell that the waking world you experience is but a dream, an illusion. The reality is in the spirit world/dream world. |
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Post by amoeba on Oct 9, 2021 5:27:09 GMT
Dreams are places in the spiritual where you get to experience a lot of things never you imagine you could do in waking world. Since I am still alive I get to see a glimpse of what the spirit world appears. The way I see it, dreams are a state of conspicuousness as awake, sleep, hypnosis, and others, are. Dreams distort the wide-reality too, just in a different way than the awake state. There is only one reality, distorted differently. When you dream you keep your most of your beliefs, but time and space are less restrictive. When you're hypnotized your beliefs are much less restrictive, and time and space depend on the level of trance. States of consciousness, yes.
When the dreamer awakens within their dream
(by remembering they be dreaming)
they go about their dreamtime in an entirely different manner than before their peephole surfaced.
Within the Imagination one beguins to harness Power.
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