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Post by Figgles on Apr 24, 2017 20:27:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 0:28:35 GMT
Should this be explained to a child who asks where the dog or grandmother went after just passing away? Or should we lie to them because they wouldn't understand and tell them the dog and granny are in a place up in the sky called heaven? |
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Post by Figgles on Apr 29, 2017 1:24:41 GMT
Should this be explained to a child who asks where the dog or grandmother went after just passing away? Or should we lie to them because they wouldn't understand and tell them the dog and granny are in a place up in the sky called heaven? In the case of my own 2 children, I've always told them when it comes to ideas about God, death, anything woo-woo, or spirituality in general, they were best not to listen to me or anyone else, but rather, to delve within, and come to their own conclusions. I at times have explained my views and experiences, but I always stress to them, that those are my opinions and my experiences, and they are under no obligation to see things as see them. Even with the experiences I've had surrounding communications with deceased loved ones, I've always told my kids that we just cannot know for absolute certain exactly what does, or does not happen following death. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 17:32:24 GMT
Should this be explained to a child who asks where the dog or grandmother went after just passing away? Or should we lie to them because they wouldn't understand and tell them the dog and granny are in a place up in the sky called heaven? In the case of my own 2 children, I've always told them when it comes to ideas about God, death, anything woo-woo, or spirituality in general, they were best not to listen to me or anyone else, but rather, to delve within, and come to their own conclusions. I at times have explained my views and experiences, but I always stress to them, that those are my opinions and my experiences, and they are under no obligation to see things as see them. Even with the experiences I've had surrounding communications with deceased loved ones, I've always told my kids that we just cannot know for absolute certain exactly what does, or does not happen following death. Isn't that contradictory though? Telling them where you believe granny is, but don’t believe what I am telling you. Find out for yourself? Do they seem satisfied with that answer? Sent from my SM-G903W using Tapatalk |
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Post by Figgles on Apr 29, 2017 20:57:05 GMT
In the case of my own 2 children, I've always told them when it comes to ideas about God, death, anything woo-woo, or spirituality in general, they were best not to listen to me or anyone else, but rather, to delve within, and come to their own conclusions. I at times have explained my views and experiences, but I always stress to them, that those are my opinions and my experiences, and they are under no obligation to see things as see them. Even with the experiences I've had surrounding communications with deceased loved ones, I've always told my kids that we just cannot know for absolute certain exactly what does, or does not happen following death. Isn't that contradictory though? Telling them where you believe granny is, but don’t believe what I am telling you. Find out for yourself? Do they seem satisfied with that answer? Sent from my SM-G903W using Tapatalk No, I don't see it as contradictory at all...nor do they. I've raised them to think for themselves and to question "authority,"...to not just go along with an adult or teacher because they are in an authoritative position. If I told them they must believe what I believe, THAT would be contradictory. I think actually, they've found my "I'll sit my views, and you are free to sit with yours...and we can agree to disagree if they diverge", kind of empowering. I'm quite happy that my kids don't see me as an authority when it comes to spirituality. Imo, everyone should be first and foremost, delving within to find their answers, and that most certainly applies to children. The idea of parents indoctrinating their kids into specific religions, dragging them to church and such, simply because they are born to them, just seems very wrong to me. As I see it, minors should not even be able to attend church....children who are raised to respect adult authority, come hell or high water, are way too vulnerable to the kind of brainwashing religions perpetrate. Kids are often just sitting ducks for that kind of snow-job. |
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Post by Krsnaraja on May 20, 2017 22:13:56 GMT
Everyone after death goes into dreamland. The living goes into a dream and comes back when they wake up. In dreamland, it is where the living and the dead meet. The world we are at present is a dream, a phantasmogoria says Lord Brahma to Narada. What we wish and dream is what we become.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2017 11:08:08 GMT
Everyone after death goes into dreamland. The living goes into a dream and comes back when they wake up. In dreamland, it is where the living and the dead meet. The world we are at present is a dream, a phantasmogoria says Lord Brahma to Narada. What we wish and dream is what we become. I don't know if that is true/the case for everybody. Some say the pineal gland in the brain will release a lot of dmt when we die. And how that will be like can be experienced before one actually really dies is by using dmt (drinking or smoking it) while still alive. I haven't done it but others have and they talk/write about it. Here is what I think should be the case after (or better before) Death: Every human being should examine their past life in the light of the question: Have I been part of the solution, part of the problem, both or neither in my last/past life-time on earth? And to answer what the problem might be, here a post from the ST-forum: "10,000 years ago, on Earth, we made up 1% of the total mammalian weight and biomass present, 99% of all other mammals were wild mammals. That figure today is almost entirely reversed. We have reduced all other wild mammal species to less than 1.5% of the world's biomass.
We, us, our livestock, our domesticated livestock and our pets, accounts for 98% of everything else living on Earth in mammalian form. And the declining figures are such, that sciencists now talks about us, humans, as entering the Anthropocene age, we have our own epoch of extinction.
And I fear that we will be left as a lonely last primate, on a planet that is pretty uninhabitable...
~ David Spiegelhalter"Read more: spiritualteachers.proboards.com/thread/1222/rebirth-great-work?page=42#ixzz4hhuV8KioAnother question that needs answering (before death) might be: Have I encouraged violence, either directely by justifying war and militant actions towards others or indirectely through my kind of lifestyle allowing such violence to take place? IOW: Have I lived my kind of lifestyle on the back of other sentient beings, who have suffered in order for me to live that kind of lifestyle I have lived? What kind of solution did I came up with to end suffering for those who deserve it? (Keeping in mind that some might actually need to suffer more than they currantely do in order to get real.) For example, here is, on top of the ones already mentioned, a personal question for someone like Bill Gates: If you want to reduce the population of the earth (as a ultra-rich us-american white boy), which might be a good idea or not, do you even know for sure WHY, for what reason, how comes, that the earth is so heavily populated by humans by now and what your part/responsibility in it is??? I think it is painfull and embarrassing for almost all members of western societies to do an honest life-examination. Personally, I'm sorry for every lifeform that had to die in order for me to live. I'm sorry for everybody who lacks the freedom I'm enjoying, who is suffering from poverty (inner and/or outer) while others have millions and even billions to their disposal. I repent! Being a white girl, using all kinds of products (computer parts, other electronics, clothes, etc.) others have produced by working in sweat-shops, lacking freedom and the fullfillment of basic human needs. I'm sorry for that! I'm sorry for every animal that had to life in bad conditions and who died for me to please my tongue. I repent! Oh Lord, who is Love, please forgive me my sins! And make me do and say the right things from now on! Please make me a better human being than I am right now. Thank you! |
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Post by Krsnaraja on May 21, 2017 11:38:52 GMT
Everyone after death goes into dreamland. The living goes into a dream and comes back when they wake up. In dreamland, it is where the living and the dead meet. The world we are at present is a dream, a phantasmogoria says Lord Brahma to Narada. What we wish and dream is what we become. I don't know if that is true/the case for everybody. Some say the pineal gland in the brain will release a lot of dmt when we die. And how that will be like can be experienced before one actually really dies is by using dmt (drinking or smoking it) while still alive. I haven't done it but others have and they talk/write about it. Here is what I think should be the case after (or better before) Death: Every human being should examine their past life in the light of the question: Have I been part of the solution, part of the problem, both or neither in my last/past life-time on earth? And to answer what the problem might be, here a post from the ST-forum: "10,000 years ago, on Earth, we made up 1% of the total mammalian weight and biomass present, 99% of all other mammals were wild mammals. That figure today is almost entirely reversed. We have reduced all other wild mammal species to less than 1.5% of the world's biomass.
We, us, our livestock, our domesticated livestock and our pets, accounts for 98% of everything else living on Earth in mammalian form. And the declining figures are such, that sciencists now talks about us, humans, as entering the Anthropocene age, we have our own epoch of extinction.
And I fear that we will be left as a lonely last primate, on a planet that is pretty uninhabitable...
~ David Spiegelhalter"Read more: spiritualteachers.proboards.com/thread/1222/rebirth-great-work?page=42#ixzz4hhuV8KioAnother question that needs answering (before death) might be: Have I encouraged violence, either directely by justifying war and militant actions towards others or indirectely through my kind of lifestyle allowing such violence to take place? IOW: Have I lived my kind of lifestyle on the back of other sentient beings, who have suffered in order for me to live that kind of lifestyle I have lived? What kind of solution did I came up with to end suffering for those who deserve it? (Keeping in mind that some might actually need to suffer more than they currantely do in order to get real.) For example, here is, on top of the ones already mentioned, a personal question for someone like Bill Gates: If you want to reduce the population of the earth (as a ultra-rich us-american white boy), which might be a good idea or not, do you even know for sure WHY, for what reason, how comes, that the earth is so heavily populated by humans by now and what your part/responsibility in it is??? I think it is painfull and embarrassing for almost all members of western societies to do an honest life-examination. Personally, I'm sorry for every lifeform that had to die in order for me to live. I'm sorry for everybody who lacks the freedom I'm enjoying, who is suffering from poverty (inner and/or outer) while others have millions and even billions to their disposal. I repent! Being a white girl, using all kinds of products (computer parts, other electronics, clothes, etc.) others have produced by working in sweat-shops, lacking freedom and the fullfillment of basic human needs. I'm sorry for that! I'm sorry for every animal that had to life in bad conditions and who died for me to please my tongue. I repent! Oh Lord, who is Love, please forgive me my sins! And make me do and say the right things from now on! Please make me a better human being than I am right now. Thank you! Why I said that is because when I dream I get meet my departed relatives in my dream. Last night, I even dreamed I was driving this van. There was no roof. As I was driving I saw a departed friend at the road side. I called out to him, " Ewin! Ewin! Ewin!". He look up and saw me. he recognized who I was. Yet did not wave at me. He just kept on staring at me. |
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Post by Figgles on May 21, 2017 18:19:12 GMT
Everyone after death goes into dreamland. The living goes into a dream and comes back when they wake up. In dreamland, it is where the living and the dead meet. The world we are at present is a dream, a phantasmogoria says Lord Brahma to Narada. What we wish and dream is what we become. Cool. I had some very vivid and indepth conversations with my brother following his unexpected death 11+ yrs. ago. At first that's what he kept telling me over and over, that from where he now sat, his life 'here,' appeared to be a dream, and the realm he now experienced, although far more fluid in all sorts of ways, felt "real" in comparison, the same way one awakens from a dream that seemed in every way to be 'real' while sleeping, but from the vantage point of being awake, can now be seen for the dream it was. His main point in stressing that was that from his new vantage point, he was laughing at how seriously he took things that he can now see where not at all serious....so many things he'd worried about that all looked so silly now from his new vantage point. |
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Post by Krsnaraja on May 21, 2017 22:14:23 GMT
Everyone after death goes into dreamland. The living goes into a dream and comes back when they wake up. In dreamland, it is where the living and the dead meet. The world we are at present is a dream, a phantasmogoria says Lord Brahma to Narada. What we wish and dream is what we become. Cool. I had some very vivid and indepth conversations with my brother following his unexpected death 11+ yrs. ago. At first that's what he kept telling me over and over, that from where he now sat, his life 'here,' appeared to be a dream, and the realm he now experienced, although far more fluid in all sorts of ways, felt "real" in comparison, the same way one awakens from a dream that seemed in every way to be 'real' while sleeping, but from the vantage point of being awake, can now be seen for the dream it was. His main point in stressing that was that from his new vantage point, he was laughing at how seriously he took things that he can now see where not at all serious....so many things he'd worried about that all looked so silly now from his new vantage point. Have you experienced dreaming then in that dream you woke up knowing you are awake in this dream? At first I felt scared, " Wow! This world is not the world I am at present I said to myself. This is a dreamworld! What if I wont be able to wake up into present world? For sure my wife and children will miss me. " So, I continued acting from that dream. There was even this guy sitting next to me and I rubbed his face and told him, " Hey, this world is a dream. " As I was telling him that I heard a great roaring sound coming down at us. I stood up and ran towards the exit of the building. When I gone out, I saw from afar rushing water coming down the mountain and into a lake. Then I woke up. |
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