Post by Figgles on Jun 5, 2023 1:16:27 GMT
JLY:
ZD said: "I remember mentioning this to Enigma many years ago by saying something like "The whole universe is alive because we are alive," but he dismissed that as an illogical conclusion. Ironically, I wasn't trying to be logical"
Task: Analyze the following in terms of no-duality and oneness. "I remember mentioning this to Enigma many years ago by saying something like "The whole universe is alive because we are alive," but he dismissed that as an illogical conclusion. Ironically, I wasn't trying to be logical"
ChatGPT: In the given statement, "The whole universe is alive because we are alive," the idea of oneness and non-duality is subtly implied. The statement suggests that there is a deep interconnection between our individual existence and the aliveness of the entire universe. It implies that our aliveness is not separate from the aliveness of everything else but rather an intrinsic part of it.
When the speaker mentions Enigma's dismissal of this idea as an illogical conclusion, it highlights the contrast between a logical perspective and a more intuitive or experiential understanding. The speaker acknowledges that their statement was not intended to be logical but rather an expression of a deeper sense of connection and oneness.
From a logical standpoint, the statement may indeed appear illogical since it challenges the conventional notion of individuality and separateness. However, when viewed through the lens of non-duality and oneness, it can be seen as an attempt to express a profound truth about the interconnected nature of existence.
ZD said: "I remember mentioning this to Enigma many years ago by saying something like "The whole universe is alive because we are alive," but he dismissed that as an illogical conclusion. Ironically, I wasn't trying to be logical"
Task: Analyze the following in terms of no-duality and oneness. "I remember mentioning this to Enigma many years ago by saying something like "The whole universe is alive because we are alive," but he dismissed that as an illogical conclusion. Ironically, I wasn't trying to be logical"
ChatGPT: In the given statement, "The whole universe is alive because we are alive," the idea of oneness and non-duality is subtly implied. The statement suggests that there is a deep interconnection between our individual existence and the aliveness of the entire universe. It implies that our aliveness is not separate from the aliveness of everything else but rather an intrinsic part of it.
When the speaker mentions Enigma's dismissal of this idea as an illogical conclusion, it highlights the contrast between a logical perspective and a more intuitive or experiential understanding. The speaker acknowledges that their statement was not intended to be logical but rather an expression of a deeper sense of connection and oneness.
From a logical standpoint, the statement may indeed appear illogical since it challenges the conventional notion of individuality and separateness. However, when viewed through the lens of non-duality and oneness, it can be seen as an attempt to express a profound truth about the interconnected nature of existence.
I wonder how chat-bot would respond if you told it how much leeway E gave to ZD, and how many times he tried to help prompt ZD towards framing his assertion of alive/conscious, perceiving, experiencing, as a "pointer" vs. the description of an experiential quality/property....but that each time that happened, ZD continued to hold his ground, insisting that his CC/Kensho revealed that the universe is 'alive' as we generally take the word to mean in common day to day living and language.
Fwiw, I've also offered up the same opportunity to ZD, and Reefs, asking if this "aliveness" was more of a pointer vs. a quality/property...and neither would acquiesce to 'non-conceptual pointer only." Now Reefs is claiming it's always been "a pointer only."