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AI, ChatGPT Nov 13, 2024 20:02:31 GMT

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Post by Figgles on Nov 13, 2024 20:02:31 GMT

Reefs:
You need to duplicate the text if it is below the minimum word count. If you add nonsense words, then you are obviously adding real human input. That being said, it's not a perfect tool, there are other AI detectors, too.

BTW, some news articles are also either 100% AI-generated or at least assisted by AI. Not to mention facebook, of course. AI is slowly seeping into all areas of communication.

The question is, why does Melvin have to rely on AI? If most of his recent posts are AI-generated, why should anyone keep talking to Melvin and not chatgpt instead?

Yes, there's that question, but did you also notice that Melvin a few days ago made what sounded to be a very sincere and contrite assertion that he'd tow the line, acquiesce to your request to stop using AI and would use his own words? My sense at the time was that he was sincere.....but I'm guessing now, it was all an act and he knew as he wrote that particular post that he wasn't gonna tow the line at all. The dude really is a piece of work.

Whether or not his words are specifically AI per se, it's very clear for anyone familiar with Melvin's post style, that he's not using his own words/ideas in those posts.

Melvin is a troll. I learned from experience with him on this site that he seemingly enjoys messing around and f-ing with people and amps it up when challenged/asked to cease.

You've banned so many for far less...am finding it odd you are giving him such a breadth of leeway.

Last Edit: Nov 13, 2024 20:03:45 GMT by Figgles

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AI, ChatGPT Nov 13, 2024 20:11:05 GMT

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Post by Figgles on Nov 13, 2024 20:11:05 GMT

JLY:

In the example above it is still ZD’s thoughts and points that are being polished and clarified by the AI, much like an editor might do. I don’t have a problem with using it in this manner. But that’s me.

I suspect those who enjoy using AI to have these conversations is because otherwise, they are personally unable to come up responses and explanations...there's a lack of true understanding/grasp, thus, AI is like a crutch that allows them to engage in convos that beyond where their understanding/realization currently sits.

When it comes to the pursuit of Truth, that failure to be able to engage with pointers with confidence, to respond to assertions that don't sit right with your own words....your own insights....your own understanding should stand as a directive to go back within. AI used in Truth-talk is putting cart before horse....allowing the toddler to run (with aids) before he's propertly mastered walking.

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AI, ChatGPT Nov 13, 2024 20:18:31 GMT

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Post by Figgles on Nov 13, 2024 20:18:31 GMT

JLY:

Some folks are very clear. Others not so much. I sometimes find it useful in understanding what another is trying to say. In this case, AI acts as a translator/decipherer.

If you're unclear about what another is saying, ask THEM! That said, it takes a certain degree of actual grasp/understanding/reference for what's being said/pointed to, often, to even formulate a relevant question. I've noticed that a lot of the questions you pose to AI, already contain a delusion/misconception. When it comes to AI and Nonduality, it's always gonna be garbage in/garbage out....that is, unless you think AI has direct realizational reference...?

When it comes to Nonduality, if you constantly find you're in over your head and having trouble deciphering meaning....grasping fully what the other is saying, it's likely best to circle back a bit...retrace steps....maybe spend some time becoming more consciously aware as a person, inquiring into mind's content/machinations instead of focusing upon Nonduality teachings. Ultimately of course, highest interest always wins out, but I'd say anyone who is using AI to help them engage Nonduality pointers out of a failure to grasp what's being pointed to, is waaaay out of his depth.

Last Edit: Nov 13, 2024 20:20:20 GMT by Figgles

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AI, ChatGPT Nov 16, 2024 4:38:58 GMT

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Post by Figgles on Nov 16, 2024 4:38:58 GMT

JLY:
When you identify with any thinking it is an error. Who you are is prior to all thought. Babies are Pure Awareness before they know a single word, never mind a string of words.

Says the dude who insists upon using AI to answer his Nonduality related questions.