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Post by Figgles on Jul 18, 2022 8:44:25 GMT
Um, yeah, except figgles is not actually there, on ST, am I?... as you banned me and not just my email,my IP. You know what I am saying because you keep coming here to read my posts......what is it that stops you from engaging me in conversation? There's a difference between "hating" the label vs. simply knowing it's incorrect. You and a few others started using it because it angered you so much what was being said, that you wanted to use a term you found to be personally disparaging. But in continuing to use that incorrect term, you've now tied yourself into defending it, which makes it even more unlikely that you're going to hear what's actually being said from the other side of this argument. The main difference between solipsism and Nonduality is the Nonduality sees through the personal self...renders it an empty appearance only arising within to the abiding ground...whereas Solipsism, reifies the personal self and upholds it as the one true thing that can be known for certain. Bullshit.
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Post by Figgles on Jul 18, 2022 8:49:51 GMT
Says the one who routinely bans people from the forum for daring to challenge/disagree with views.
You are a true piece of work Reefs.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2022 9:24:03 GMT
Says the one who routinely bans people from the forum for daring to challenge/disagree with views. You are a true piece of work Reefs. I am following your comments but 2 forums running in parallel is a bit too much to take in!
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Post by Gopal on Jul 18, 2022 11:55:29 GMT
Says the one who routinely bans people from the forum for daring to challenge/disagree with views. You are a true piece of work Reefs. I am following your comments but 2 forums running in parallel is a bit too much to take in! Yes. And I see figgles is suffering from his writing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2022 12:18:34 GMT
I am following your comments but 2 forums running in parallel is a bit too much to take in! Yes. And I see figgles is suffering from his writing. This is really weird because I've concluded that you and figgles are the only two people who understand what I'm talking about on ST and I spend most of my time arguing with figgles. 😀
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Post by Gopal on Jul 18, 2022 13:07:56 GMT
Yes. And I see figgles is suffering from his writing. This is really weird because I've concluded that you and figgles are the only two people who understand what I'm talking about on ST and I spend most of my time arguing with figgles. 😀 Figgles understand fine. But she is suffering after reading what Reefs writes over there. She is thinking je writes whatever he wants to write without letting her in.
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Post by Figgles on Jul 18, 2022 16:23:29 GMT
Says the one who routinely bans people from the forum for daring to challenge/disagree with views. You are a true piece of work Reefs. I am following your comments but 2 forums running in parallel is a bit too much to take in! No worries--understood!
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Post by Figgles on Jul 18, 2022 16:35:34 GMT
This is really weird because I've concluded that you and figgles are the only two people who understand what I'm talking about on ST and I spend most of my time arguing with figgles. 😀 Figgles understand fine. But she is suffering after reading what Reefs writes over there. She is thinking je writes whatever he wants to write without letting her in. Suffering? No, not even close. I'm having a very good time actually....Regardless of the fact that he's not engaging me directly in conversation, Reefs is finally opening up about what's behind his erroneous assertion that he "knows for absolute certain that people are perceiving/experiencing". Previously, i suspected what was the crux of his general delusion on that matter, but with each post he makes, he's revealing more and more. As I always say, without specific examples of delusion/falsity to point away from, forum Truth-talk, writing about SR, expressing clarity, goes stagnant pretty fast. Reefs finally opening up on what's at the crux of his so called "knowing," is like an avalanche of fluffy new snow for one who truly loves to ski! I just want to make it clear that Reefs IS welcome here, if he chose to directly converse....I want to be very clear that I am not a hypocrite on this matter, as he is....and I think it's very important to point out that one of the ways that being awake impacts experience, is directly related to Truth-talk/expression of mind's informing of SR.....how open are we to challenge of our views? One who is holding his conceptual understanding of SR as sacred, as Reefs and ZD are, will be the one who refuses to directly to engage...who bans and blocks and censors dissenting views....who refuses to hold his views up for direct challenge. Both ZD and Reefs fit that bill. I've never seen two posters on a forum supposedly dedicated to Truth, so obviously reticent to engage in dharma battle, to put their understandings under the scrutiny of challenge.
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Post by Figgles on Jul 18, 2022 16:55:49 GMT
And.. for the mystic it will end there. For a true jnani, the body/world are temporal appearances within that which abides....so regardless of 'the world is my body,' ultimately, that body/world, unified as it may be, is transcended.
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Post by Figgles on Jul 18, 2022 17:20:26 GMT
That is an apt observation Gopal. If you track Reef's shifting views, they follow his (and interestingly enough, Sharon's as well) shifting interets in various teachers/teachings/books. The "Seth Speaks" material figured very prominently in Reef's ontology at one point...around the time he countered the assertion of "not knowing," with the silly "if it's cheese," metaphor....I'd started questioning Reef's around that point about whether or not he took the Seth material to be representative of Truth and never really got a straight answer from what I can recall. I would say by virtue of the fact that he was so obviously into those teachings and his dedication of entire threads to Seth quotes and then conversation about those, and that he was doing so on a forum supposedly dedicated to Nonduality, that he did indeed take it all to be "Absolute Truth." Interestingly enough, it was during that time where Reefs was really going hard on the Seth stuff that someone sent me a link to a fb page of a particular "Sharon" who resides in the UK...pointed out that the Seth material was featured on her page under 'liked' area, she also apparently belonged to a Seth talk group, and then, also posted on this Sharon's page, a dubstep link. Reefs had created a thread on ST, (now since I've mentioned all this--deleted of course!) where'd he'd initiated sharings specifically of dubstep music. Not sure if you're familiar with dubstep, but it's not generally a type of music those in the 40-60 age-set favor. So, if it turns out that both Sharon and Reefs are dubstep afficionados, AND Seth zealots from way-back, those are some pretty cool synchs indeed. It was also interesting to note, that while this Sharon person had Seth stuff on her fb page, even belonged to a Seth group, she rarely offered any input into the Seth-talk/Seth thread that Reefs had created. I still have no verification that the fb page was/is that of the Sharon/wren/Bak/etc, who posts here....but it was interesting that way back when I talked about all this, the fb page in question immediately went down/went private. For me, there's always been a 'signature' of sorts to both Reefs/Sharon's posts....as posters, each of them shares an (at times), brittle/hard mean/nasty-streak of a particular variety that is unique to just those two. Obviously, don't know anything for certain, but when you consider how often Sharon deletes a particular account/avatar only to re-emerge shortly after on forum, completely new name, no mention at all that it's here again, engaging...new pic, etc, it does seem to suggest the possibility of multiple, simultaneous accounts. Also: Noticed last night as I perused ST, that at exactly the same time-stamp, both sharon and Reefs posted back to back. Reefs supposedly resides somewhere in Asia and Sharon is in the UK. Considering time zones, not out of the question they'd both be on forum at same time, but a little interesting all things considered. I wonder, how would everyone who has engaged with Reefs and Sharon over all these years feel about it if it were in fact so that all this time, sharon has been behind all of Reef's posts? Ultimately i guess, it wouldn't matter so much, other than the fact of the deceptive ruse behind it. What kind of individual baggage would it take to even want to do that?...what kind of individual feels the need to cancel their account and then logs back in under a new name, and doesn't tell anyone they're the same poster..? I'd say there's some kind of dysfunction behind that kind of thing..but who knows...?
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