Post by Figgles on Jul 11, 2022 4:21:35 GMT
For several years now, this term has been bandied about on ST and Gab in a way that has nothing at all to do with Nonduality/Truth.
I think Reefs was the first the hi-jack the term, which is indeed used by some as a Nonduality pointer. He erroneously conflated the term "knowing True nature," with "knowing objects/things are perceiving/having discrete, individual experiences of their own."
In terms of SR/awakening, the knowing of the True nature of objects/thing is nothing other than knowing/seeing that all distinction is apparent only and fundamentally, all objects/things are empty of inherent existence....they appear/arise completely dependent upon the abiding ground...not separate from that. As such, we use the pointer "It's all awareness," to speak about both the ground and the appearing world arising within/to that...of course, including discrete/distinct, apparently individuated things, people and animals.
BUT...big But!....knowing the appearing person and his apparent perception, the appearing shoe, the appearing dog, etc, etc, is essentially an expression OF awareness, thus, none-other than awareness, does NOT mean that the True nature of an appearance is therefore itself, per se, aware...or "perceiving/experiencing."
That is a ridiculous leap of mind that first of all takes the pointer of "awareness" as the fundamental reality and turns it into a conceptual something and then it get even worse as that conceptual something/substance is imagined to infuse itself INTO each appearing thing/object, thereby infusing that object with the property/quality of perceiving/experiencing.
The term True Nature is just another pointer to the fundamental Truth of Oneness/non-separation...to the inherent emptiness/absence of inherent existence of all objects/thing...of all perceivables....even the appearance of sentience/perception/individualized experiencing, itself.
Bodies/people THAT are giving rise to perception/experience are illusions. It's not actually True/Truth that an appearing body is giving rise to/catalyzing perception or that an appearing person = "an experiencer/perceiver." That what gets seen through in SR/awakening.
The True nature of anything that appears is indeed "awareness," but "awareness" there is but a pointer and not a something/substance that has the quality/property of perceiving/experiencing.
I think Reefs was the first the hi-jack the term, which is indeed used by some as a Nonduality pointer. He erroneously conflated the term "knowing True nature," with "knowing objects/things are perceiving/having discrete, individual experiences of their own."
In terms of SR/awakening, the knowing of the True nature of objects/thing is nothing other than knowing/seeing that all distinction is apparent only and fundamentally, all objects/things are empty of inherent existence....they appear/arise completely dependent upon the abiding ground...not separate from that. As such, we use the pointer "It's all awareness," to speak about both the ground and the appearing world arising within/to that...of course, including discrete/distinct, apparently individuated things, people and animals.
BUT...big But!....knowing the appearing person and his apparent perception, the appearing shoe, the appearing dog, etc, etc, is essentially an expression OF awareness, thus, none-other than awareness, does NOT mean that the True nature of an appearance is therefore itself, per se, aware...or "perceiving/experiencing."
That is a ridiculous leap of mind that first of all takes the pointer of "awareness" as the fundamental reality and turns it into a conceptual something and then it get even worse as that conceptual something/substance is imagined to infuse itself INTO each appearing thing/object, thereby infusing that object with the property/quality of perceiving/experiencing.
The term True Nature is just another pointer to the fundamental Truth of Oneness/non-separation...to the inherent emptiness/absence of inherent existence of all objects/thing...of all perceivables....even the appearance of sentience/perception/individualized experiencing, itself.
Bodies/people THAT are giving rise to perception/experience are illusions. It's not actually True/Truth that an appearing body is giving rise to/catalyzing perception or that an appearing person = "an experiencer/perceiver." That what gets seen through in SR/awakening.
The True nature of anything that appears is indeed "awareness," but "awareness" there is but a pointer and not a something/substance that has the quality/property of perceiving/experiencing.
